With this post the sig has changed. Thanks Murray, it was a nice run.
Someday I'll get as good at this as Ramalho. If I ever meet him he'll
have an entire weekend free beer.
I can't make Ramalho's type of connections with this outfit, but at the
very least the "LiquidGeneration newsletter" is a listwashing operation
(and not a very good one at that) by mainsleaze-wannabe Bruce Freud,
self-styled "serial entrepreneur."
- It is being sent to an old, old AOL addy known to have been included
on "Millions of email Addresses" CDs, despite LARTs.
- This "newsletter" has evolved into a hornet's nest of unique
identifiers - more than 200 each in their latest missives (I received
two identical turdlets today).
- The "bidness model" as described by their CEO in articles quoted below.
- Two LiquidGeneration servers (65.61.160.116 and 65.61.160.120) were in
list posted by Jennifer O'Connell of rackspace 11 Aug 2003 in which she
says, "The majority of the customers below have been terminated for
violations of our AUP or no longer trace to our network."
http://tinyurl.com/v5m7
- The "privacy policy" has loopholes for the hosting ISP to use personal
information and also the use of the word, ahem, "affiliate":
http://www.liquidgeneration.com/legal.html. FWIW there appears to be a
"link affiliate" program; Google LiquidGeneration and affiliate:
http://tinyurl.com/v5ql
- In January '03, LiquidGeneration hired Marc Kiven as vice president of
sales and marketing. Kiven was most recently head of sales for
"interactive agency" Avenue A and its "technology sales division," Atlas
DMT.
Avenue A
http://tinyurl.com/v5mu
Atlas DMT, "The Only Technology You Need to Market Online"
http://www.atlasdmt.com
- Inane, unprofessional, mindless and error-riddled prose by what Freud
has described as "staff writers and university students in the Chicago
area."
12/01 article on LiquidGeneration stating, "Liquidgeneration.com earns
its revenue by getting data on Gen Y users and selling the information
on trends to businesses."
http://www.scholarsite.com/noticias/3c0e8da9.2518.927.htm
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theunknownaddy wrote:
> I can't make Ramalho's type of connections with this outfit, but at the
> very least the "LiquidGeneration newsletter" is a listwashing operation
> (and not a very good one at that) by mainsleaze-wannabe Bruce Freud,
> self-styled "serial entrepreneur."
Don't list-washing operations honor unsubscribe requests?
I LART them all and have been for a few months now. Needless to say, I'm
still getting them. I'm glad someone's finally brought them up here.
--
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice."
In news:fbBtb.402442$pl3.55102@pd7tw3no, Steven Fisher
(sdfisher@spamcop.net) said:
> theunknownaddy wrote:
>
> > I can't make Ramalho's type of connections with this
> > outfit, but at the very least the "LiquidGeneration
> > newsletter" is a listwashing operation (and not a very
> > good one at that) by mainsleaze-wannabe Bruce Freud,
> > self-styled "serial entrepreneur."
>
> Don't list-washing operations honor unsubscribe requests?
>
Always honoured mine, though i've only ever been subscribed through
someone else sending one of their movies to me.
--
Andrew
The above address IS valid but will go straight to my
spambin. If you want to make sure I read your email unmunge
andy@[/unmunge/]supersheep.org
Andrew Bell wrote:
> Always honoured mine, though i've only ever been subscribed through
> someone else sending one of their movies to me.
For some reason, I gave them the bennefit of the doubt and unsubcribed
several times... even though I'd never subscribed to begin with. It was
an email trap, one I got caught in because I let down my guard.
I still get the junk mail, so I LART now.
--
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice."
Steven Fisher wrote:
> Andrew Bell wrote:
>
>> Always honoured mine, though i've only ever been subscribed through
>> someone else sending one of their movies to me.
>
> For some reason, I gave them the bennefit of the doubt and unsubcribed
> several times... even though I'd never subscribed to begin with. It was
> an email trap, one I got caught in because I let down my guard.
>
> I still get the junk mail, so I LART now.
Well I humbly request you post your next to .sightings.
--
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Status: 5.1.0 MAIL FROM: <theunknownaddy@aol.com> 554 REPLY:
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Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:54:59 -0000
theunknownaddy wrote:
> Steven Fisher wrote:
>
>> Andrew Bell wrote:
>>
>>> Always honoured mine, though i've only ever been subscribed through
>>> someone else sending one of their movies to me.
>>
>>
>> For some reason, I gave them the bennefit of the doubt and unsubcribed
>> several times... even though I'd never subscribed to begin with. It
>> was an email trap, one I got caught in because I let down my guard.
>>
>> I still get the junk mail, so I LART now.
>
>
> Well I humbly request you post your next to .sightings.
>
I will next time. Sorry, I'm still new here. :)
--
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice."
theunknownaddy wrote:
> liquidgeneration.com resolves to 65.61.160.117
>
> www.liquidgeneration.com resolves to 65.61.160.117
>
> Mail for liquidgeneration.com is handled by mail.liquidgeneration.com
> (10) 66.241.243.166, mx2.safesecureweb.com, (20) 66.241.243.145
>
> Registrant:
> LiquidGeneration, Inc.
> 200 E Ohio Street
> Chicago, IL 60611
> US
>
> Domain name: LIQUIDGENERATION.COM
and there are .net/.biz/.org domains
ciao
RoM
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