Shagmail/Sendoutmail/Pulse Direct/PennMedia - spammers and Usenet newsgroup spam-flooders, coordinating their users to do the Distributed Denial of Service attack against it. shagmail.com, sendoutmail.com, pulsetv.com, pennmedia.com, pmhost.net, cleanlaffs.com, filmquotes.com, getyourfreebies.com, laffaday.com, quotes2u.com, asthedialturns.com, thedailytease.com, bizarrenews.com, numberpower.com, thedailyrecipe.com, phunnypictures.com, [63.83.188.0 - 63.83.188.255], [64.200.129.0 - 64.200.129.255], [66.205.201.130 - 66.205.201.142], [209.125.134.0 - 209.125.134.255]: Access denied! === shagmail/sendoutmail SPEWS listing (S872) === === http://www.spews.org/html/S872.html === shagmail/sendoutmail |-------------------- 1, 63.83.188.248, chat.shagmail.com 1, 63.83.188.0/24, Pulse Direct (uunet) 2, 208.250.144.41, shagmail (uunet) (dead) 2, 216.205.65.210 - 216.205.65.228, shagmail (interliant) (dead) 2, 216.205.65.0/24, interliant (shagmail) 2, 216.52.142.54, shagmail.com 2, 216.52.142.0 - 216.52.142.255, shagmail / PennMedia.com (Inap) (dead) 0, 216.52.139.128 - 216.52.145.255, Inap (shagmail / PennMedia.com) 0, 4.37.106.50, pulsetv.com 0, 4.37.106.187, mail7.sendoutmail.com 0, 4.37.106.0 - 4.37.106.255, pulsetv.com / PennMedia (genuity.net) (dead) 0, 4.37.96.0 - 4.37.116.255, genuity.net (pulsetv.com / PennMedia) 1, 209.125.134.182, af2.shagmail.com 1, 209.125.134.0 - 209.125.134.255, PennMedia (newedgenetworks.com) 1, 209.125.130.0 - 209.125.138.255, newedgenetworks.com (PennMedia) 1, 209.125.128.0 - 209.125.140.255, newedgenetworks.com (PennMedia) ---------------------| Spamming harvested domain contacts. Host networks refuse to act on abuse reports. New information states that network(s) forward abuse reports directly to spammers. See: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you're going to try a spammer "Rule #1" please at least give the effort to make SPEWS consult "Rule #2"! Yawn... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Funny, these seem so clear... must be outdated? As is this? Maybe these are the only things in effect? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- contacting nameserver: ns1.sendoutmail.com [209.125.134.10] shagmail.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002111101 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () shagmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com A 209.125.134.54 shagmail.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com shagmail.com MX 10 exchange2.shagmail.com list41.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list39.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list42.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list43.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list44.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list45.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list46.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list47.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list50.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list48.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list51.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list49.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list52.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list1.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list53.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list2.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com exchange2.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.14 list54.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list3.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list55.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list4.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list56.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list5.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list6.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list57.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list7.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list60.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list58.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list8.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list61.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list59.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list9.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list62.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com af2.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.182 list63.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com af3.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.54 list64.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list65.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list66.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list67.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list70.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list68.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list71.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list69.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list72.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list73.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list74.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list75.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list76.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list77.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list80.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list78.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list81.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list79.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list82.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list85.shagmail.com MX 10 ls14.sendoutmail.com list86.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com backup2.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.17 backup.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.12 list156.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list10.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list11.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list12.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list13.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list14.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list15.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list16.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list17.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list18.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list20.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com www.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.54 list19.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list21.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com exchange.shagmail.com A 209.125.134.13 list22.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list23.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list24.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list25.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list26.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list27.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list28.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list30.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list29.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list31.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list32.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list33.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list34.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list35.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list36.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list37.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list40.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list38.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com Old: ---- shagmail.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002070507 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () shagmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com A 4.37.106.54 shagmail.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com shagmail.com MX 10 exchange2.shagmail.com list41.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list39.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list42.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list43.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list44.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list45.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list46.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list47.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list50.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list48.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list51.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list49.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list52.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list1.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list53.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list2.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com exchange2.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.14 list54.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list3.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list55.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list4.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list56.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list5.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list6.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list57.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list7.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list60.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list58.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list8.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list61.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list59.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list9.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list62.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com af2.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.182 list63.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com af3.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.54 list64.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list65.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list66.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list67.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list70.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list68.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list71.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list69.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list72.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list73.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list74.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list75.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list76.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list77.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list80.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list78.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list81.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list79.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list82.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list85.shagmail.com MX 10 ls14.sendoutmail.com list86.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com backup2.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.17 backup.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.16 list156.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list10.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list11.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list12.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list13.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list14.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list15.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list16.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list17.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list18.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list20.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com www.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.54 list19.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list21.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com exchange.shagmail.com A 4.37.106.13 list22.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list23.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list24.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list25.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list26.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list27.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list28.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list30.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list29.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list31.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list32.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list33.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list34.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list35.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list36.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list37.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list40.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com list38.shagmail.com MX 10 af2.shagmail.com shagmail.com A 216.52.142.54 shagmail.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com shagmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002044401 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () shagmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com shagmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com exchange.shagmail.com A 216.52.142.13 ns1.sendoutmail.com A 216.52.142.10 ns3.sendoutmail.com A 216.52.138.140 Old: ---- shagmail.com A 207.241.30.195 sp1.shagmail.com A 208.250.144.41 sp2.shagmail.com A 208.250.144.41 af1.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.195 af2.shagmail.com A 216.205.65.228 af3.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.142 listserve10.shagmail.com A 207.241.66.20 listserve11.shagmail.com A 207.241.66.21 ls9.shagmail.com A 207.241.66.19 chat.shagmail.com A 63.83.188.248 ns1.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.135 ns2.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.136 ns3.shagmail.com A 207.241.66.151 backup2.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.183 backup2.shagmail.com MX 10 207.241.30.183 listserve8.shagmail.com A 207.241.66.18 backup.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.131 free.shagmail.com A 216.205.65.210 www.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.142 exchange.shagmail.com A 207.241.30.131 pulsetv.com A 4.37.106.50 pulsetv.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com pulsetv.com MX 10 exchange2.shagmail.com pulsetv.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com pulsetv.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com pulsetv.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002060303 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () pulsetv.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com pulsetv.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com exchange.shagmail.com A 216.52.142.13 exchange2.shagmail.com A 216.52.142.14 ns1.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.10 ns3.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.140 Old: ---- pulsetv.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002030601 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () pulsetv.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com pulsetv.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com pulsetv.com A 216.52.142.50 pulsetv.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com www2.pulsetv.com A 216.52.142.50 free.pulsetv.com A 216.52.138.204 slots.pulsetv.com A 216.52.142.51 ads.pulsetv.com A 216.52.142.52 www.pulsetv.com A 216.52.142.50 Old: ---- ns1.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.135 pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.194 slots.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.192 ns3.pulsetv.com A 207.241.66.151 free.pulsetv.com A 207.241.66.100 wes.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.194 ww2.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.194 freebsd.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.189 ads.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.189 mail.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.131 exchange.pulsetv.com MX 5 207.241.30.131 exchange.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.131 www.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.160 www2.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.160 ns2.pulsetv.com A 207.241.30.136 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PennMedia 19001 S. Old LaGrange Rd. Mokena, IL 60448 US Domain Name: SHAGMAIL.COM Administrative Contact: Wes Burnett wes@pennmedia.com PennMedia 19001 S. Old LaGrange Mokena, IL 60448 US Phone- 708-478-4500 Fax- Record updated on 2000-10-20 00:00:00. Record created on 1999-06-03. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.30.135 NS2.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.30.136 NS3.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.66.151 Record updated on 2002-04-01 14:36:21. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 216.52.142.10 NS2.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.30.136 NS3.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 216.52.138.140 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- contacting nameserver: ns3.sendoutmail.com [209.125.134.140] pennmedia.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002111202 pennmedia.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com pennmedia.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com pennmedia.com A 209.125.134.201 pennmedia.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com dellsql.pennmedia.com A 209.125.134.221 sql2k.pennmedia.com A 209.125.134.220 ads.pennmedia.com A 209.125.134.118 www.pennmedia.com A 209.125.134.201 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pulse Direct 19001 Old LaGrange Rd. Mokena, IL 60448 US Domain Name: SENDOUTMAIL.COM Sponsoring Reseller; for Technical Support with respect to this domain contact: CompuOne Network, hostmaster@compuone.net 630 9861528 http://www.compuone.net Administrative Contact: Burnett, Wes wes@shagmail.com 19001 Old LaGrange Rd. Mokena, IL 60448 US 708 478 4500 Record last updated on 14-Nov-2001. Record Created on 17-Apr-2000. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.30.135 NS2.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 207.241.30.136 Record last updated on 21-Mar-2002. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 216.52.142.10 NS3.SENDOUTMAIL.COM 216.52.138.140 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- contacting nameserver: ns3.sendoutmail.com [209.125.134.140] sendoutmail.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002112601 sendoutmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com sendoutmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com sendoutmail.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com sendoutmail.com MX 10 exchange2.shagmail.com sp1.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.41 sp2.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.42 list1.sendoutmail.com MX 10 ls2.sendoutmail.com data2.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.178 qube.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.15 data.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.180 list6.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp1.sendoutmail.com scripts.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.153 shagmail.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.37 ls1.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.151 ls2.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.152 ls3.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.153 ls4.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.154 ls5.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.155 ls6.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.156 ls7.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.157 pennwbsvr.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.160 ls8.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.158 ls9.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.159 ns1.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.10 ns3.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.140 ls10.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.160 ls11.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.161 ls12.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.162 ls13.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.163 ls14.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.164 ls15.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.165 ls16.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.166 manager.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.179 backup.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.12 list16.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp1.sendoutmail.com mail1.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.181 www.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.202 mail2.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.182 exchange.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.13 mail3.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.183 mail4.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.184 mail5.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.185 mail6.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.186 mail7.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.187 mail8.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.188 mail9.sendoutmail.com A 209.125.134.189 list29.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp2.sendoutmail.com list33.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp2.sendoutmail.com list34.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp2.sendoutmail.com Old: --- contacting nameserver: ns3.sendoutmail.com [4.37.106.140] sendoutmail.com SOA origin = ns1.sendoutmail.com mail addr = hostmaster@sendoutmail.com serial = 2002071511 refresh = 7200 (2 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 () sendoutmail.com NS ns1.sendoutmail.com sendoutmail.com NS ns3.sendoutmail.com sendoutmail.com MX 5 exchange.shagmail.com sendoutmail.com MX 10 exchange2.shagmail.com sp1.sendoutmail.com A 207.250.144.41 sp2.sendoutmail.com A 207.250.144.42 list1.sendoutmail.com MX 10 ls2.sendoutmail.com data2.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.178 data.sendoutmail.com A 4.37.106.180 list6.sendoutmail.com MX 10 sp1.sendoutmail.com 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If you want to remove yourself from the list, Click Here -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- === Shagmail's lusers flood news.admin.net-abuse.email with their requests === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!area.cu.mi.it!news.mailgate.org !newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: lckingskid2002@yahoo.com (Lisa Carter) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Shagmail.com emails Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:18:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 38 Message-ID: <70a96d94.0303070126.34604d16@posting.google.com> References: <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050282 8196 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:18:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:18:02 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934642 I also receive shagmail.com newsletters and love them! What criteria are used to block our emails? Is intelligence a requirement or common sense? I don't want to lose the things I purposefully subscribe to. If I am unable to unsubscribe to something I don't want, I report that as Spam and fully expect that to be blocked, otherwise--please don't concern yourself! And I agree with the man who made the statement about removing the porn sites. If they're so concerned, why don't they concentrate on removing things of that nature to make the internet a safer place! If you're not intelligent enough to know that pornography is perversion and is unhealthy by EVERY stretch of the imagination, then please don't presume to block anyone's mail or do anything else for that matter which requires thought because your judgement is seriously impaired and you shouldn't be making decisions for anyone--not even yourself!!! And let's not forget the thousands of sites that are only there to con us out of our hard-earned cash!!! You don't have to be Einstein or have a Ph.D. to know you're not going to make $10,000 in 1 month doing anything and if you do--it ain't legal and shouldn't be on the internet anyway!!! It seems to me that given the guidelines already in place, there certainly is a lot of latitude concerning what Spam is and isn't by the "powers that be". And just one more thing--my name is Lisa--what in the world do I need with a penile enlargement? I rest my case. TheMartian wrote in message news:... > After a long battle with technology "Allhands" > wrote > > > I have been getting shagmail.com newsletters for a long time now. I want > > them and think that its totally not right that the ISP's can block the > > emails I want yet not doing anything about the 100 email msgs of porn I > > get everyday in my junk mail. What gives them the right to block > > something that I want. If you are going to block spam mailers get rid of > > the porn for crying out loud. I wany my bizarre news and bible verses > > and trivia back!!!!! > > shagmail.com has been on my block list for a while now, I have never > signed up with them for anything, indeed never even heard off them until > crap from them arrived in my inbox. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04 !sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: lckingskid2002@yahoo.com (Lisa Carter) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Shagmail.com emails Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:25:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 42 Message-ID: <70a96d94.0303070149.4b2397ae@posting.google.com> References: <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050715 9928 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:25:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:25:15 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934648 Bruce Lane wrote in message news:... > In article <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com>, > cr_kennedy@hotmail.com says... > > > I have been getting shagmail.com newsletters for a long time now. I > > want them and think that its totally not right that the ISP's can > > block the emails I want yet not doing anything about the 100 email > > msgs of porn I get everyday in my junk mail. What gives them the right > > to block something that I want. If you are going to block spam mailers > > get rid of the porn for crying out loud. I wany my bizarre news and > > bible verses and trivia back!!!!! > > Their servers, their bandwidth, their rules. You are only > guaranteed whatever degree of connectivity is spelled out in the written > contract between you and your provider. > > If this does not appeal, you have the option of choosing a > different provider. > > The Internet, contrary to popular belief, is not now, nor was it > ever, a truly "public" resource. >I too receive shagmail newsletters--I signed up for them. I did this deliberately because I enjoy them!! What is the criteria for making the determination of what Spam is or isn't and who makes this determination? Does this require a modicum of intelligence or common sense? Apparently not. It's quite obvious that whatever guidelines are currently in place, they are allowed too much latitude. When I am unable to unsubscribe to a site I'm not interested in and report that as Spam, then I expect that site to be blocked from my address--otherwise, please don't presume to know what I want! Also, I agree with the man who suggests they do away with pornography on the internet. If you're not intelligent enough to figure out that this is harmful, a perversion and unhealthy, then please don't presume to make determinations for me or anyone else about what Spam is as your judgement is seriously impaired and you shouldn't be making decisions for anyone (including yourself). And let's not forget the thousands of sites out there that only desire to part you from your hard-earned money--I am, of course, referring to MLM's. You don't have to be Einstein to figure out you're not going to make $10,000 a month doing anything--at least not anything legal!! And finally, my name is Lisa---what do I need with a penile enlargement? I rest my case!! Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!opentransit.net!newsfeed.icl.net !newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: lckingskid2002@yahoo.com (Lisa Carter) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Shagmail.com emails Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:18:04 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 38 Message-ID: <70a96d94.0303070126.cfaeaad@posting.google.com> References: <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050285 8210 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:18:05 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934643 I also receive shagmail.com newsletters and love them! What criteria are used to block our emails? Is intelligence a requirement or common sense? I don't want to lose the things I purposefully subscribe to. If I am unable to unsubscribe to something I don't want, I report that as Spam and fully expect that to be blocked, otherwise--please don't concern yourself! And I agree with the man who made the statement about removing the porn sites. If they're so concerned, why don't they concentrate on removing things of that nature to make the internet a safer place! If you're not intelligent enough to know that pornography is perversion and is unhealthy by EVERY stretch of the imagination, then please don't presume to block anyone's mail or do anything else for that matter which requires thought because your judgement is seriously impaired and you shouldn't be making decisions for anyone--not even yourself!!! And let's not forget the thousands of sites that are only there to con us out of our hard-earned cash!!! You don't have to be Einstein or have a Ph.D. to know you're not going to make $10,000 in 1 month doing anything and if you do--it ain't legal and shouldn't be on the internet anyway!!! It seems to me that given the guidelines already in place, there certainly is a lot of latitude concerning what Spam is and isn't by the "powers that be". And just one more thing--my name is Lisa--what in the world do I need with a penile enlargement? I rest my case. TheMartian wrote in message news:... > After a long battle with technology "Allhands" > wrote > > > I have been getting shagmail.com newsletters for a long time now. I want > > them and think that its totally not right that the ISP's can block the > > emails I want yet not doing anything about the 100 email msgs of porn I > > get everyday in my junk mail. What gives them the right to block > > something that I want. If you are going to block spam mailers get rid of > > the porn for crying out loud. I wany my bizarre news and bible verses > > and trivia back!!!!! > > shagmail.com has been on my block list for a while now, I have never > signed up with them for anything, indeed never even heard off them until > crap from them arrived in my inbox. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de !news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-09 !supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: lckingskid2002@yahoo.com (Lisa Carter) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Shagmail.com emails Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:17:40 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 38 Message-ID: <70a96d94.0303070125.1dc954a1@posting.google.com> References: <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050262 8114 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:17:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:17:42 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934644 I also receive shagmail.com newsletters and love them! What criteria are used to block our emails? Is intelligence a requirement or common sense? I don't want to lose the things I purposefully subscribe to. If I am unable to unsubscribe to something I don't want, I report that as Spam and fully expect that to be blocked, otherwise--please don't concern yourself! And I agree with the man who made the statement about removing the porn sites. If they're so concerned, why don't they concentrate on removing things of that nature to make the internet a safer place! If you're not intelligent enough to know that pornography is perversion and is unhealthy by EVERY stretch of the imagination, then please don't presume to block anyone's mail or do anything else for that matter which requires thought because your judgement is seriously impaired and you shouldn't be making decisions for anyone--not even yourself!!! And let's not forget the thousands of sites that are only there to con us out of our hard-earned cash!!! You don't have to be Einstein or have a Ph.D. to know you're not going to make $10,000 in 1 month doing anything and if you do--it ain't legal and shouldn't be on the internet anyway!!! It seems to me that given the guidelines already in place, there certainly is a lot of latitude concerning what Spam is and isn't by the "powers that be". And just one more thing--my name is Lisa--what in the world do I need with a penile enlargement? I rest my case. TheMartian wrote in message news:... > After a long battle with technology "Allhands" > wrote > > > I have been getting shagmail.com newsletters for a long time now. I want > > them and think that its totally not right that the ISP's can block the > > emails I want yet not doing anything about the 100 email msgs of porn I > > get everyday in my junk mail. What gives them the right to block > > something that I want. If you are going to block spam mailers get rid of > > the porn for crying out loud. I wany my bizarre news and bible verses > > and trivia back!!!!! > > shagmail.com has been on my block list for a while now, I have never > signed up with them for anything, indeed never even heard off them until > crap from them arrived in my inbox. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: desertrose97641@yahoo.com (Rosalie E. Rodgers) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: shagmail Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:18:34 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.163.36.158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050315 8333 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:18:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:18:35 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934645 To Whom it may concern; I signed up to receive shagmail in my inbox and would appreciate receiving it. It has very informative information. I was receiving in my mail and it had stopped. Thank you. Sincerely, Rosalie E. Rodgers Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-08!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: refracto@attbi.com (Bozopolis) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Shagmail Date: 7 Mar 2003 08:51:16 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <14eadad7.0303070851.4dabb17c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.255.37.101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047055878 28909 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 16:51:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 16:51:18 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934719 I have been receiving newsletters from Shagmail for several years. All of a sudden my ISP, attbi.com decided that shagmail was SPAM and started filtering it. It was not my filter, but theirs. Certainly an ISP has a right to try to eliminate SPAM, but Shagmail isn't SPAM. You have to subscribe to the newsletters to get them, verify by email that you want them, and you can unsubscribe at any time. This makes me wonder what else I'm not getting. They don't seem to mind that I get 5-10 porn messages a day, so why pick on Shagmail? Everything with ATT broadband has gone to s**t since the merger with comcast. Speeds are down, costs are going up, and now this. I should have stuck with DSL. At least the service is consistent. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-08!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: virgo@frontiernet.net (cherokeegrl) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Its time to be heard Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:57:05 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.215.227.79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047052626 17532 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:57:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:57:06 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934675 We pay our ISPs for the right to be online. I for one am sick of them making senseless decisions that directly affect my mail. To my ISP Frontier as well as to my web mail host Hotmail, I say this, my statement isn't open to interpretation, I mean what I say and just hope my voice is heard and understood.... I am very discouraged at having newsletters that I requested blocked. You have no problem allowing my In Box to be spammed by Porn sites and every other unscrupulous company that preys on people via their In Box but yet you will block Shagmail when I requested it?? Are you blocking them because they aren't among the people that you've sold my address to?? I think you need to get your priorities straight. Stop blocking the mail that your customers have requested, stop selling our addresses, start protecting us from the mail that we want no part of and try very hard to protect our children from. It's time you recognized that you are the leading cause that many parents don't allow their children to check their E-mail for letters from friends & family before it's inspected first so the filth sent from sites that you profited from when you sold our addresses can be eliminated. I may only be one voice but I believe I am saying what a multitude of your customers feel. It's time for us to be heard and time for the ISPs that we pay every month with our hard earned money to listen. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-08!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: virgo@frontiernet.net (cherokeegrl) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Its time to be heard Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:57:21 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 25 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.215.227.79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047052642 17762 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:57:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:57:22 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934676 We pay our ISPs for the right to be online. I for one am sick of them making senseless decisions that directly affect my mail. To my ISP Frontier as well as to my web mail host Hotmail, I say this, my statement isn't open to interpretation, I mean what I say and just hope my voice is heard and understood.... I am very discouraged at having newsletters that I requested blocked. You have no problem allowing my In Box to be spammed by Porn sites and every other unscrupulous company that preys on people via their In Box but yet you will block Shagmail when I requested it?? Are you blocking them because they aren't among the people that you've sold my address to?? I think you need to get your priorities straight. Stop blocking the mail that your customers have requested, stop selling our addresses, start protecting us from the mail that we want no part of and try very hard to protect our children from. It's time you recognized that you are the leading cause that many parents don't allow their children to check their E-mail for letters from friends & family before it's inspected first so the filth sent from sites that you profited from when you sold our addresses can be eliminated. I may only be one voice but I believe I am saying what a multitude of your customers feel. It's time for us to be heard and time for the ISPs that we pay every month with our hard earned money to listen. From: ravagingbearcat@yahoo.com (Bearcat) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: The shagmail so called "Spam" fiasco Date: 6 Mar 2003 19:06:17 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.161.106.170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047006378 21666 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 03:06:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 03:06:18 GMT I've been suscrbing to Shagmail for little over a year and never encountered so much bovine excrement over spamming as I have recently. Who are ISP"S to decide what I can or can't recieve in my mailbox? I've missed out on getting newsletters from Shagmail in my inbox! Is this the beginning of Orwell's "1984"? Puhlease! Shagmail always gives me the choice of opting out by unsuscribing with no problems. They have excellent and informative newsletters & I sincerely hope that my Yahoo email will not be impeded by ridiculous actions by uninformed ISP providers that can't differentiate between a spam or a legit newsletters that suscribers can actually enjoy in their spare time. Let's get real people! Leave Shagmail alone and let US, the suscribers decide whether or not we want Shagmail in our email inboxes. Thank you Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: buva_1@yahoo.com (tubbasmom) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: The shagmail so called "Spam" fiasco Date: 7 Mar 2003 09:27:33 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 29 Message-ID: <5dcd503.0303070927.6889e979@posting.google.com> References: <25kg6v8pv6pc397fgposs4649rmu3mmqlp@news.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.158.70.95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047058053 3525 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 17:27:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 17:27:33 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934762 "trebor@sirius.com.no.more" wrote in message news:<25kg6v8pv6pc397fgposs4649rmu3mmqlp@news.supernews.com>... > ravagingbearcat@yahoo.com (Bearcat) wrote: > > >I've been suscrbing to Shagmail for little over a year and never > >encountered so much bovine excrement over spamming as I have recently. > >Who are ISP"S to decide what I can or can't recieve in my mailbox? > > Who are they? Well, they're the owners of the equipment you rent. It's > like the landlord deciding you can't paint the walls of your apartment > purple with yellow dots. > > >I've missed out on getting newsletters from Shagmail in my inbox! Is > >this the beginning of Orwell's "1984"? > > I don't think so. They didn't have email in 1984, if I remember right. > > > Puhlease! Shagmail always gives me the choice of opting out by > >unsuscribing with no problems. > > Good for you. Now find an ISP that accept mail from them. I have subscribed to newsletters for awhile now and in particular those from ShagMail. I really miss my newsletters. But what really angers me is Yahoo.com not just taking away what I want but giving me instead what I don't want! That is, all the sexual content SPAM! I'm not talking about the ad stuff for performance enhancers I'm talking about the stuff from a yahoo address no less, that offers "free" views of porn. I don't want that stuff and in spite of using Yahoo's filters I STILL get it. What gives here? Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net !residential.shaw.ca!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03 !sn-xit-01!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: marggood@flash.net (Maggie) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Shagmail Shutout Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:30:07 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 12 Message-ID: <7508bde5.0303071530.562f15b9@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.238.137.206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047079807 7453 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 23:30:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 23:30:07 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935054 My various Shagmail newsletters were a lot of fun. I enjoyed especially the "Quote of the Day" and the test of my ability to find out who spoke/wrote the Mystery Quote. I missed my Laffs and Bizarre, Trivia and Recipe of the Day. I still don't completely understand exactly WHY they suddenly disappeared from my mailbox, but I sure want to have them back. I was waiting, the last time I had "QAD", to find out if I had the correct person quoted. Guess I'll never know now. They could have at least warned us, or asked us if we really, REALLY wanted these newsletters, rather than gratuitously deleting them. I HOPE they have it all straightened out now, and I can go back to enjoying them all. Just another freedom jerked out from under us... < sigh > === And they launch denial of service attacks, too === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu !malgudi.oar.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!not-for-mail From: Jim Kennedy Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Ok, I had enough of Shagmail! Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 15:20:21 -0500 Organization: APK Net Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.brokaw.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: plonk.apk.net 1047068421 9623 206.183.7.50 (7 Mar 2003 20:20:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@apk.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 20:20:21 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934921 On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:54:00 -0500, "McWebber" wrote: >Careful. Although they have spammed, there's still the outside chance these >posts are a joe. I will let you know, I emailed the last three. They not only spam, they DoS if you block them. 11/09/2002 05:52:51.0358 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:53.0155 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:54.0702 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:56.0202 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:58.0014 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:53:01.0233 4.37.106.187 I have three and half days of that in my logs from those assholes. It is from when they sent from Genuity. Dunno if they still do, that block is still in my router. JK === Shagmail has sent their lusers to complain about them being blocked === === for spamming === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.vmunix.org!kibo.news.demon.net!demon !btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "I.B." Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Shagmail Newsgroup spam - possible reason why... Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 33 Message-ID: <3E693334.7060507@netscape.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-134-125-189.in-addr.btopenworld.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1047081517 1560 81.134.125.189 (7 Mar 2003 23:58:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:58:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935073 Looks like the spammers Shagmail are being filtered left, right and centre, and are trying in vain to do something about it, little knowing that they are making their own problems worse! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_did_not_get_my_email/message/19 but this is the most significant one: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_did_not_get_my_email/message/27 Important parts: "I, along with many other Shagmail subscribers received an e-mail from a Shagmail administrator concerning their subscribers' failure to receive their mailings. In this e-mail, the administrator confirmed what many of us already knew: that many of our ISP's were blocking Shagmail's mailings" and... "Shagmail is trying to resolve the issue with these ISP's, but also urged us subscribers to individually contact our ISP's. The administrator included a copy of an e-mail a subscriber sent to their ISP as an example. I certainly will be contacting my ISP by phone and e-mail, especially given that my "membership" is up for renewal soon. " I expect that they probably "urged their subscribers" to post to NANAE as well.... fscking idiots... -- I.B. === http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_did_not_get_my_email/message/19 === From: Date: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:43 am Subject: Shagmail I would also like to add my voice to those whose Shagmail mailings have been blocked. I have been subscribed to three Shagmail publications for nearly two years. I subscribed to them myself after my wife found them for after searching the net for some stuff I might like. Everything was fine up until a little over two weeks ago. My regular Friday mailings never arrived on the 7th of February. At first, I didn't think much about it, putting it off to some sort of computer virus or network problem. But when mailings had not resumed within a week's time, I began to be curious. First, I went to Shagmail's web site. Everything seemed fine there. As a matter of fact, I visited one e-zine's archives and found that they had published throughout the week I was missing their mailings. Figuring I had been the victim of a list server problem, I tried to re- subscribe using my normal ISP (PeoplePC) e-mail address. Vainly I waited for the subscription verification e-mails to come. After about an hour, I gave up and tried a different tack. I subscribed to my Shagmail publications through my MSN Hotmail account. That worked- -briefly. I got the e-mail verifications, confirmed them, and got about a week's worth before MSN shut them down. And that really surprised me because if anyone's a SPAM sieve, it's MSN. Anyway, I did some research on the net about Shagmail and was surprised to learn that there are quite a number of people out there who believe that Shagmail and it's parent company or a company associated with them, PennMedia, are bigtime spammers. And from the sound of it, it looks like Shagmail may be on blocklists all over then Net. Oh, and BTW, in the opinion of some anti-spam vigilantes, if you post in this forum to complain about not receiving legitimate e-mails, then you are considered either a spammer yourself or a spam supporter. I can provide a link to support that. Just thought you all might like to know that. === http://groups.yahoo.com/group/i_did_not_get_my_email/message/27 === From: Date: Sat Mar 1, 2003 12:15 pm Subject: Update on Shagmail blocking On Friday, February 28, I, along with many other Shagmail subscribers received an e-mail from a Shagmail administrator concerning their subscribers' failure to receive their mailings. In this e-mail, the administrator confirmed what many of us already knew: that many of our ISP's were blocking Shagmail's mailings. Among the ISP's involved in this censorship effort: Earthlink/Mindspring, AttbiComcast, Qwest, and MSNHotmail. Many other ISP's are involved as well, including my own, PeoplePC. Shagmail is trying to resolve the issue with these ISP's, but also urged us subscribers to individually contact our ISP's. The administrator included a copy of an e-mail a subscriber sent to their ISP as an example. I certainly will be contacting my ISP by phone and e-mail, especially given that my "membership" is up for renewal soon. As a side note I find the inclusion of MSNHotmail to be something of a bitter irony as I have found MSN to be very lame at filtering out SPAM, especially of the pornographic type. Typically, anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3's of the SPAM that ends up in my "Junk Mail" folder advertises porn sites. And yet, MSN thinks they're doing their customers a favor when they block such publications as "Clean Laffs" (a clean humor letter), "Cat Nips" (an e-zine about cats and cat care), and "The Daily Tease" (a puzzle/trivia type letter). And these were publications I personally had subscribed to and flagged to go to my Inbox, not the Junk Mail folder. But when you do go to them with a legitimate complaint, say, about a mailbomb, they basically take a, "Sorry, there's nothing we can do about it" attitude approach to your problem. I'd say someone's got their head screwed on backwards, to put it nicely. === And how those flooders respond to private e-mails, trying to explain === === the situation with Shagmail === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu !malgudi.oar.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!not-for-mail From: Jim Kennedy Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Response via email from the Shagmail Sock Puppets Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 15:58:59 -0500 Organization: APK Net Lines: 48 Message-ID: <7r1i6vs28so6fqiq52qsd4dcr5kputksuk@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.brokaw.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: plonk.apk.net 1047070740 10574 206.183.7.50 (7 Mar 2003 20:59:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@apk.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 20:59:00 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934947 I sent the following to three or four of the Shagmail Sock Puppets: Read your post. You are very mistaken about Shagmail. They are also known as Penn Media/Sendout Mail. I run an email server for a small company. Below is a clip from my logs in November: 11/09/2002 05:52:51.0358 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:53.0155 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:54.0702 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:56.0202 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:52:58.0014 4.37.106.187 11/09/2002 05:53:01.0233 4.37.106.187 What you are seeing is connection attempts to deliver email to my server, about one every 1.5 seconds. They did this 24 hours a day for 3 and half days. I could send you pages and pages of the above if you want, from that 3.5 day period. The only way I could get them to stop was to contact their ISP by phone and have the ISP stop it. They brought our server to a near standstill, causing us loss of email and business. No ISP or network admin in their right mind would allow these criminals to connect to their network.You have to trust the technical people at your ISP at times to do what is needed to protect their system. If your ISP allows Shagmail to connect they could very well face the same problem I did, and then you wouldn't get any of your email. Also, it is your ISP's decision to block Shagmail, your post in the newsgroup is pointless, you need to discuss this with them. Also, dont use your email address in newsgroups, that is how you get spam :) So far, I got back one response: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:17:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Cottrell (munged, though dunno why, he left it in the open) To: munged Subject: Re: DO THE INITIALS F.O. MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU!!!!!! === Shagmail asks their luser to abuse the unrelated newsgroup === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news2.euro.net!uunet !sac.uu.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!not-for-mail From: Jim Kennedy Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Shagmail says post here. Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 23:47:18 -0500 Organization: APK Net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <38ti6vk2qu6k51e1mtfibgr8kb2n470kj5@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: asi-dsl-stat-a-24.apk.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: plonk.apk.net 1047098839 22679 206.183.9.24 (8 Mar 2003 04:47:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@apk.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Mar 2003 04:47:19 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935327 Have been conversing with the Shagmail gang some more. It would appear that if you complain to Shagmail about not getting your newsletter they tell you to post here. "It was suggested in response to my complaint to Shagmail as a place where it might be seen. I never posted to anything but a BB before...and "BB before" is not easy to say out loud. Bye for now." It is a shame, the person I was talking to just wants his newsletter, he contacts Shagmail and they neglect to mention that the best way to get this fixed at his ISP. I am not saying Shag shouldn't be blocked, I have been clear on that but this guy is entitled to his opinion, and should express it to his ISP. === And about Shagmail spamming === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newshunter!esel!cosy.sbg.ac.at !news.scconsult.com!bill From: Bill Cole Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: The shagmail so called "Spam" fiasco Organization: Solid Clues References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:25:36 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.254.12 X-Posting-Server: RumorMill 1.3.4b6 X-Trace: news.scconsult.com 1047068737 unauthenticated 192.168.254.12 ( 7 Mar 2003 20:25:37 -0500) Lines: 72 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935188 In article , ravagingbearcat@yahoo.com (Bearcat) wrote: > I've been suscrbing to Shagmail for little over a year and never > encountered so much bovine excrement over spamming as I have recently. > Who are ISP"S to decide what I can or can't recieve in my mailbox? Your ISP owns your mailbox. You are only a renter, or in the case of freemail providers like Yahoo or Hotmail, you are not even a renter but a guest. A bit like a dependent child. When you own your own mailbox (anyone can who is willing to spend a little extra money and learn a little) you get to make all your own decisions about it. In between being a sqautter/guest/dependent and a freeholder there are a lot of gradations, and many of the better providers will let you tune your own individual mail filtering quite finely. > I've missed out on getting newsletters from Shagmail in my inbox! Is > this the beginning of Orwell's "1984"? I suggest you go back and read that book again. > Puhlease! Shagmail always gives me the choice of opting out by > unsuscribing with no problems. That's very strange, given that they 1. Subscribed me without my asking. 2. Ignored complaints passed to them by their provider, except to issue lies about my having subscribed 3. Kept trying to mail the same garbage to the same address that returned definitive 5xx errors for a month, at a rate of hundreds per day. 4. Kept trying to send mail to that same server for 4 additional muonths after their addresses were put into my border router's deny list, at a rate as high as 20 tries per minute and never less than 1 per minute until they stopped a couple weeks ago. >They have excellent and informative > newsletters & I sincerely hope that my Yahoo email will not be impeded > by ridiculous actions by uninformed ISP providers that can't > differentiate between a spam or a legit newsletters that suscribers > can actually enjoy in their spare time. Shagmail (aka sendoutmail.com, aka Penn Media, aka Wes Burnett) sends a whole lot of spam to a whole lot of people. That there are some people who have asked for his mail is not really relevant. > Let's get real people! Leave Shagmail alone and let US, the > suscribers decide whether or not we want Shagmail in our email > inboxes. The only people I've seen claiming to be actual subscribers are like yourself people using freemail addresses and Google to post remrkably similar messages here. You name wouldn't be Wes would it? Even if you are indeed not the same person as the author of <9df2a4e7.0303061718.2f6d6cfd@posting.google.com> or Wes Burnett, it is pretty clear to me that Penn Media is mailing a whole lot more people who ARE NOT subscribers than who are. The simple fact that they took about 6 months of having their servers shunned by my server before they stopped trying to mail me is a solid sign that they can't manage their lists competently and likely couldn't even tell you how many people are actually getting their mail. When an owner of a mail system sees a sender ignoring rejections and sending to mostly people who never subscribed, it is absolutely reasonable for them to block that sender. -- Now where did I hide that webwsite... === And here is the proof that Shagmail are coordinating the DDoS attack === Path: uni-berlin.de!cust-62-219-88-71.cust.bezeqint.NET!not-for-mail From: Dolphin Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Shagmail did it: the proof Date: 9 Mar 2003 05:49:24 GMT Organization: Private person Lines: 104 Sender: Alexander Sheremet Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cust-62-219-88-71.cust.bezeqint.net (62.219.88.71) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047188964 66300520 62.219.88.71 (16 [104765]) X-SPEWS: I am not X-PGP-key: 0xAAE2A579 X-PGP-key-fingerprint: 5B8E 3B28 7199 8CD3 4133 FA87 000B 0FB6 AAE2 A579 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935866 I've got a reply from one of those who was fooled by Shagmail to post about them in NANAE. Shagmail did it in their last news: X-Apparently-To: MUNGED via web80301.mail.yahoo.com; 08 Mar 2003 07:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-YahooFilteredBulk: 66.205.201.130 X-Track: 143: 20 Return-Path: Received: from vmg-ext.prodigy.net (EHLO vmg.prodigy.net) (207.115.63.93) by mta812.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Mar 2003 07:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [66.205.201.130] Received: from mail4.pmhost.net (mail4.pmhost.net [66.205.201.130] (may be forged)) by vmg.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with SMTP id h28FSsBK189740 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:30:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:30:13 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Bizarre is Back From: "Bizarre News" To: "MUNGED " Content-Length: 6968 BIZARRE NEWS - Saturday, March 8, 2003 "Spanning the globe for the weird...strange...and stupid." ------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe and unsubscribe links at the BOTTOM of the page. ------------------------------------------------------------ Greetings fellow Bizarros: I would like to welcome back all you Bizarre faithfuls who have been waiting patiently for the return of Bizarre News. Over the past couple of weeks, hundreds of subscribers have emailed me asking, "What happened to my newsletters?" Thanks to all of you for your inquiries. What has happened is that several ISPs are blocking Shagmail newsletters. They think we are SPAM and do not realize that you have asked for your issues of Bizarre News. So we're asking for your help. Please fill out our support form by clicking the link below and we will forward it to the right people at the ISPs. This will ONLY be used to illustrate to your ISP that we are not Spam and that you have requested our service. It won't take you long and you'll be helping ensure that you have control over what makes it into your inbox. http://209.125.134.82/supportshagmail/support.asp Support your Shagmail I thank you in advance for your support. Now, on with the Bizarre... Bizarrely, Lewis P.S. Today's reader comments are a bit dated, due to the lack of recent issues. But, I'm sure you'll enjoy them just the same. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------- Bizarre Entertainment ------------------+ FACTS And the web page that floods NANAE, is: http://209.125.134.82/supportshagmail/support.asp Show Your Support For Shagmail.com Please fill out the information below to show your support for your favorite newsletters. You may have noticed an interruption in your ShagMail newsletter service. We apologize for this but we found that we were being blocked by many ISPs as being spam. This is happens occasionally and is usually resolved quickly. Unfortunately this was not the case this time. We urge you all to show your ShagMail.com support by filling out the form below. This will ONLY be used to illustrate to your ISP that we are not spam and that you have requested our service. Once again, please fill out the form so we can insure your ShagMail subscription will not be interrupted in the future. [Click Here To Show Your Support] This information will only be used to show your ISP that you really do wish to receive your ShagMail publications. Thank You! Dolphin. -- URL: http://www.DolphinWave.org Mail: on the web page (no spam) ICQ: 6615461 === ... which leads to the invitation to post to NANAE, too === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newshosting.com !news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com !easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net !stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net !harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: "Paul Franson" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Shagmail did it: the proof Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:17:40 -0800 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.03.8c.30 X-Server-Date: 9 Mar 2003 07:17:42 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1935894 "Dolphin" wrote in message news:slrnb6lleu.gs7.usenet-Mar+nanae@orca.dolphinwave.org... > http://209.125.134.82/supportshagmail/support.asp > fill in that form (I did with junk) and you get http://209.125.134.82/supportshagmail/Thankyou.htm which reads: Thank you for all your support while we try to restore your Shagmail newsletter service. If you would like to do more to assist us we invite you to also post comments to the internet discussion news group that many postmasters and web administrators use to filter mail. Click here (link to http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&group=n ews.admin.net-abuse.email) By posting your kind comments and declaring that you do want your Shagmail newsletters delivered you can help prevent this kind of problem in the future.Thank you very much from all the Editors and Staff at Shagmail.com. === And Shagmail apologies for Usenet flooding === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu !postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: anisa@shagmail.com (Anisa) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Apology from ShagMail Date: 10 Mar 2003 14:59:38 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 16 Message-ID: <64d7fe5b.0303101459.1b08e3b@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.125.134.22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047337179 7152 127.0.0.1 (10 Mar 2003 22:59:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Mar 2003 22:59:39 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1936901 I'd like to apologize for requesting our readers post to this group. It turned out to be very taxing on all parties involved. It was not our intent to hurt anyone, just to get some much needed help. Early this morning we took the link off of our site. I would like to thank the one admin who took the time to contact us directly and explain the problems with posting to this group, and the possible issues that have arisen with our list and confirmation process. It makes much more sense now as to what the problems are. Please be patient with us as we fix these problems. Again I do apologize and thank you for your time. Best, Anisa === A reply to it === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!wn14feed !worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc02.POSTED !not-for-mail From: invalid@example.com Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Apology from PennMedia brown-nosing wench Message-ID: References: <64d7fe5b.0303101459.1b08e3b@posting.google.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.212.35.6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc02 1047338684 12.212.35.6 (Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:24:44 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:24:44 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:24:44 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1936925 anisa@shagmail.com (Anisa) wrote: >I'd like to apologize for requesting our readers post to this group. >It turned out to be very taxing on all parties involved. It was not >our intent to hurt anyone, just to get some much needed help. Early >this morning we took the link off of our site. > >I would like to thank the one admin who took the time to contact us >directly and explain the problems with posting to this group, and the >possible issues that have arisen with our list and confirmation >process. It makes much more sense now as to what the problems are. Anisa, get your nose out of Wes' butt. He has known exactly what Shagmail's problems are for many years. He has been repeatedly told how to fix it by many ISPs and by every major anti-spam organization. And he has flat-out refused to comply. Since you are the one tasked with abuse issues, it's disingenious of you to pretend you haven't been told this a bazillion times. You're backpeddling now because you found out your cheap trick didn't play in Peoria. >Please be patient with us as we fix these problems. > >Again I do apologize and thank you for your time. Patient? Being blocklisted to heck and gone forever isn't being patient? Consider how entirely defensive blocklisting is. The blocking networks do send an absolutely minimal number of packets back to PennMedia (depending at what stage of SMTP the server rejects)...how passive can they be? PennMedia, in return, continues to hammer away for years, even where its addresses are *router-blocked* and do not even return a single ACK packet, ever! Blocklisting is an ultimate statement of patience. Here's what Shagmail needs to do, stated publicly just so Penn Media can't say they weren't told. You need to stop sending all bulk e-mail immediately. Then compose a one-last-bite "permission pass" e-mail. It shouldn't be a huge commercial blow-out, just a simple message explaining who you are, what you are doing, and what action the recipient needs to take in order to continue to receive your bulk e-mail. That action must be an affirmation (i.e., a positive, active response) that they wish to continue receiving your mail; it generally means returning a token unique to each address either by SMTP or by HTTP. Any address which does not return the specific token unique to that address is permanently removed from the list. After that, continue to confirm all new subscriptions and you will only be sending SOLICITED bulk e-mail. You will find that, over time, your mail will be welcome at an increasing number of servers. === Followup === Path: uni-berlin.de!64-121-56-80.c3-0.snmt-ubr2.sfrn-snmt.ca.cable.rcn.COM !not-for-mail From: Bob O`Bob Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Apology from PennMedia brown-nosing wench Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:12:38 -0800 Organization: Little piles of books, magazines, and papers, for the cat to knock over Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3E6D29F6.594E@cluestick.org> References: <64d7fe5b.0303101459.1b08e3b@posting.google.com> Reply-To: bob@cluestick.org NNTP-Posting-Host: 64-121-56-80.c3-0.snmt-ubr2.sfrn-snmt.ca.cable.rcn.com (64.121.56.80) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047341610 67410481 64.121.56.80 (16 [15412]) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1936979 invalid@example.com wrote: > That action must be > an affirmation (i.e., a positive, active response) that they wish to > continue receiving your mail; it generally means returning a token unique > to each address either by SMTP or by HTTP. Any address which does not > return the specific token unique to that address is permanently removed > from the list. Fairly subtle distinction, I know, but ... There is no room for "removed" because that permits "not removed" The old lists need to be DESTROYED and only addresses which DO return their specific unique tokens can be added to the RE-INITIALIZED lists. If you don't make that perfectly clear, they WILL find some way to retain most of the crap addresses. Bob -- === PulseTV uses TorpedoMail to spam === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed !worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "gogojojo" From: "gogojojo" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Pulsetv (sendoutmail) using TorpedoMail to spam Lines: 54 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <_Z%ea.18917$ja4.1299703@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:14:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.82.81.28 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1048349690 12.82.81.28 (Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:14:50 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:14:50 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1945890 Since their own servers are probably blocked: sent from, emails and unsubscribe link from: IP address: 64.213.55.206 Host name: mail4.optin-proservers.com Alias: 206.55.213.64.in-addr.arpa Domain Name: OPTIN-PROSERVERS.COM Whois on Optin-Proservers.com (Torpedomail) IP address: 64.213.55.134 Host name: optin-proservers.com Alias: ns1.opt-in-servers.com 134.55.213.64.in-addr.arpa Whois on Optin-Servers.com (spam services from torpedomail) IP address: 64.213.55.134 Host name: optin-servers.com Alias: ns1.opt-in-servers.com 134.55.213.64.in-addr.arpa urls in spam: http://optin-servers.com/specials.cfm?ID=1410 but redirect to: http://www2.pulsetv.com/st/prodinfo.asp?number=1595 faq on page http://www.sendoutmail.com/search/search.htm without page number, goes to TorpedoMail http://www.torpedomail.com/ Permision based email, claims 3rd party only no lists, has an unsubscribe link. 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