Topica.com - spammers and Usenet harvesters! Also - cartooney and asking their customers to run a Distributed Denial of Service attack (DDoS) against the blocklists. Access denied at the firewall level! topica.com, topica.net, tpca.net, tep1.com, tepmail.com, tfmb.net, email-publisher.com, list-email.net, m1111.com, tpcper.com, tclk.net, advizemark1.com, advizemark15.com, yfdirect.com, neonet2.com, [38.113.200.0 - 38.113.203.255], [64.125.140.0 - 64.125.140.255], [64.163.147.6], [65.77.104.0 - 65.77.107.255], [65.119.107.230], [66.180.244.0 - 66.180.247.255], [69.24.236.0 - 69.24.239.255], [206.111.131.0 - 206.111.131.255], [208.184.76.0 - 208.184.76.255], [209.133.66.0 - 209.133.66.255]: Access denied! === Spamming / Usenet harvesting verification attempts (GMT+0300) === Apr 18 21:44:34 orca sendmail[26798]: g3IIiXP26798: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:44:35 orca sendmail[26798]: g3IIiXP26798: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta013.topica.com [64.125.140.222] -- Apr 18 21:55:02 orca sendmail[26844]: g3IIt2P26844: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:55:03 orca sendmail[26844]: g3IIt2P26844: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] -- Apr 18 21:55:10 orca sendmail[26845]: g3IIt5P26845: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:55:10 orca sendmail[26845]: g3IIt5P26845: lost input channel from outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] to Daemon0 after rcpt -- Apr 18 21:56:20 orca sendmail[26870]: g3IIuJP26870: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:56:20 orca sendmail[26870]: g3IIuJP26870: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] === My complaint === Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Admin Reply-To: abuse@2002.dolphinwave.org Organization: Private person Message-Id: <200204182211.22830@2002.dolphinwave.org> To: Abuse reports , nanas-sub@cybernothing.org, uce@ftc.gov, hostmaster@ultimanet.com, abuse@above.net, abuse@mfnx.net, abuse@xo.com Subject: [email] Multiple spamming attempts/Usenet harvest verification from topica.com! Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:30:48 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] X-Sender: dolphin@localhost X-Complaints-To: abuse@dolphinwave.org (live person) X-PGP-key: 0xAAE2A579 X-PGP-key-fingerprint: 5B8E 3B28 7199 8CD3 4133 FA87 000B 0FB6 AAE2 A579 X-No-Confirm: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: RO X-Status: S Today my mailserver has logged multiple delivery attempts on my e-mail addresses, used on the Usenet newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email, and harvested from there (harvests of my posts in November and December 2001)! Their harvesting program made a mistake, trimming my address after the "+" symbol, so one of the delivery was attempted to the nanae@dolphinwave.org box instead of the usenet-nov2001+nanae@dolphinwave.org one (I have tagged boxes for my Usenet posts). They collect bounces to special tagged addresses to verify if they are deliverable, or not, like this one: perf-errors.1641.40900.17017674.501.0.4@boing.topica.com Please, terminate spammer's accounts as soon as possible! Thanks! ======= Refusing to deal with your persistent spammers will lead your whole IP ranges to be blocked from accessing my mailservers ever again, and the info about it will be shared with other admins and public shared blocklists! Spammer: outmta013.topica.com [64.125.140.222] Registrant: Topica, Inc. 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US Domain Name: TOPICA.COM Administrative Contact: Administrator, Systems hostmaster@topica.com 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-344-0800 Technical Contact: Administrator, Systems hostmaster@topica.com 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-344-0800 Billing Contact: Administrator, Systems hostmaster@topica.com 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-344-0800 Registration Service Provider: Ultima Networks, hostmaster@ultimanet.com 831-759-2875 Record last updated on 20-Mar-2002. Record expires on 05-Feb-2003. Record Created on 06-Feb-1998. Domain servers in listed order: NS3.TOPICA.COM 206.111.131.72 NS1.TOPICA.COM 64.125.140.8 NS2.TOPICA.COM 208.184.76.200 Abovenet Communications IP block [64.124.0.0 - 64.125.255.255]. Upstream: AboveNet Communications (so-2-0-0.er1a.sfo1.us.mfnx.net). NS2.TOPICA.COM [208.184.76.200] ============== AboveNet Communications IP block [208.184.0.0 - 208.185.255.255]. Upstream: AboveNet Communications (pos1-0.er1a.sjc1.us.mfnx.net). NS3.TOPICA.COM [206.111.131.72] ============== XO Communications IP block [206.111.0.0 - 206.111.255.255]. Upstream: XO Communications (w195.z206111144.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net). 209.133.66.117.topica.com [209.133.66.117] ========================= Abovenet Communications IP block [209.133.0.0 - 209.133.127.255]. Upstream: AboveNet Communications (so-2-0-0.er1a.sfo1.us.mfnx.net). ======= Sendmail logs (GMT+0300) ======= Apr 18 21:44:34 orca sendmail[26798]: g3IIiXP26798: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:44:35 orca sendmail[26798]: g3IIiXP26798: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta013.topica.com [64.125.140.222] -- Apr 18 21:55:02 orca sendmail[26844]: g3IIt2P26844: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:55:03 orca sendmail[26844]: g3IIt2P26844: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] -- Apr 18 21:55:10 orca sendmail[26845]: g3IIt5P26845: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:55:10 orca sendmail[26845]: g3IIt5P26845: lost input channel from outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] to Daemon0 after rcpt -- Apr 18 21:56:20 orca sendmail[26870]: g3IIuJP26870: ... User unknown Apr 18 21:56:20 orca sendmail[26870]: g3IIuJP26870: from=, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=SMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=outmta017.topica.com [64.125.140.226] === Topica's replies, 1st === Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f260.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.135]) by mail.dolphinwave.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3IKAqP27690 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:10:56 +0300 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:59:21 -0700 Received: from 66.125.16.202 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:59:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.125.16.202] From: "Melanie Peterson" To: usenet-apr+nanae@2002.dolphinwave.org Subject: 3web45.com termination of offending client Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:59:21 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2002 19:59:21.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[88367630:01C1E713] Status: R X-Status: N To the recipients of UCE's from Market Refinery: We apologize for any inconvenience or annoyance these messages may have caused. Market Refinery misinformed our company of their intentions and of the content of their email lists. We were assured that all addresses were exclusively opt-in. We have terminated our relationship with Market Refinery. If you have received this message, you have been opted out of Market Refinery's list. If you receive further messages from Market Refinery, please be assured that they did not come from us. Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact Market Refinery if you have any further problems. Melanie Peterson 3web45.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com === Topica's replies, 2nd === Return-Path: Received: from =MY-SECONDARY-MX= (=MY-SECONDARY-MX=) by mail.dolphinwave.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3J08oP28652 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 03:09:01 +0300 Received: from hotmail.com (f40.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.40]) by =MY-SECONDARY-MX= (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3J08Zje028416 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 02:08:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from custsrv3web45@hotmail.com) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: X-Authentication-Warning: =MY-SECONDARY-MX=: Host f40.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.40] claimed to be hotmail.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:08:05 -0700 Received: from 66.125.16.202 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:08:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.125.16.202] From: "Melanie Peterson" To: abuse@2002.dolphinwave.org Subject: Spam Complaint Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:08:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2002 00:08:05.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[47A6D290:01C1E736] Status: R X-Status: N To the recipients of UCE's from Market Refinery: We apologize for any inconvenience or annoyance these messages may have caused. Market Refinery misinformed our company of their intentions and of the content of their email lists. We were assured that all addresses were exclusively opt-in. We have terminated our relationship with Market Refinery. If you have received this message, you have been removed from the Market Refinery list*. If you receive further messages from Market Refinery, please be assured that they did not come from us. Once again, we apologize for any inconvenience. Please contact Market Refinery if you have any further problems. Melanie Peterson 3web45.com * If we were not provided with your email address and list information in your UCE report, you may not have been opted out. Please click on the opt-out link in the Market Refinery email to ensure removal _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com === More spam and ignoring complaints (Spamhaus Block List: SBX2848) === === http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBX2848 === Ref: SBX2848 64.125.140.0/24 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL) Apr 25 2002 - 12:32hrs GMT topica.com / adprosolutions.tfmb.net For over a month all complaints to topica.com about adprosolutions.tfmb.net have been ignored therefore the previous listing of 64.125.140.193 has now been escalated to 64.125.140.0/24 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:12:34 +1000 (EST) To: frontdesk@thepointehotel.com, frontdesk@tiffincrane.com, frontdesk@ultradesign.com, frontdesk@victorialodging.com, frontdesk@viewsoft.com, frontdesk@villageinnnc.com, frontdesk@vivafilms.com, frontdesk@wagontrail.com From: gljpomso@yahoo.com (Mary) Subject: Wanna Make $300.00 per Hour-GUARANTEED! 4286 Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by Mary (gljpomso@yahoo.com) on Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 21:12:34 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- body: Make $800.00 - $1,200.00 every week-GUARANTEED!! With only two hours a week!! ***Your income can start coming in within 48 hours! ***Are you sick and tired of working for someone else? ***Be totally financially independent!! CLICK BELOW! https://www.securetags.com/tfrt/advmkt To be removed from future mailing, please click below http://sadjhg1234@adprosolutions.tfmb.net/?aaaarG.abfVgE 7267 === Other people also report spam from Topica still flows (manual web harvest) === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!deine.net!amsnews01.chello.com!news-hub.cableinFrom: reply_in_newsgroup_thanks@example.com (Nautilus) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Any more Email Abuse from Topica ? References: <7zLy8.50479$Rw2.3951151@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 61 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 15:41:14 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-xB4op99u0KrdkI6dP63C+EZ8fDs7eRNYla3/keLLj2WYe5E69T85OEQ1XpO4ZevaoY+X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:41:14 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1644390 >I was just wondering if anyone has received any garbage from *Topica >Supported* websites or invitations linking back to Topica? Just today in fact. I was trying to decide how 'spammish' it is, because I do have my resume on my web pages. However, that page specifically says I specialize in multi-media and CG ... I don't consider that "IT" and this goofball says I need 3 years IT experience to apply. Note that my email is not on my resume page (it's on another not linked from the resume page), and it is in a GIF so it wasn't bot harvested. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Received: from autobuyingcorp.com ([63.200.10.187] helo=cgtsrvr.cgt-consult.com) ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:07:32 -0400 Received: by CGTSRVR with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 27 Apr 2002 22:09:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: Listserver To: Subject: Looking for a job? - Join our IT Jobs list Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 16:16:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1EE41.92DAE12C" Status: Hi , Looking for an IT job? Then, please join my IT Jobs group, where I post about 3 - 10 jobs per day on this group, on a daily basis. Send email to mailto:CGT-Jobs-subscribe@topica.com and reply to the subsequent email, which you will receive shortly. This is a free group dedicated to the IT openings at CGT Consulting Inc. If you are interested in receiving job notifications via email then please subscribe to this group. We get many job openings, from our clients on a daily basis, which we post on this group. These jobs are from located all over the USA, since we have clients in almost all the states in the USA. All jobs require that you be in the USA and have a minimum of 3 years of IT experience. I would also encourage you to invite your friends and colleagues to join this group too. Please pass this email to them. P.S. If you want to receive a daily digest version of these emails, please subscribe into digest mode, by sending the email to: mailto:CGT-JOBS-subscribe-digest@topica.com However, this is not recommended since we need the responses to the emails and submit to our clients ASAP, due to the current job-market conditions. If you would like to submit a resume to me, please submit via our website, on the Job Search page. Please send a word copy! Thanks ... Naren www.cgt-consult.com To recap: Send email to mailto:CGT-Jobs-subscribe@topica.com and reply to the subsequent email, which you will receive shortly. === Cartooney and DDoS threats from their customers === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!enews.sgi.com!telocity-west!TELOCITY !news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!propagator-maxim !news-in.spamkiller.net!feed.newsfeeds.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.102.236.42 !ns.osirusoft.com!not-for-mail From: Joe Jared Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: "The easy way... or the hard way" [Fwd: Please de-list Topica.com] Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:43:00 -0700 Organization: OsiruSoft Research & Engineering Lines: 76 Message-ID: <3CFA3D04.B0C30A8A@osirusoft.com> Reply-To: joejared@relays.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sc-sville-24-197-134-21.chartersc.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ns.osirusoft.com 1023032843 29391 24.197.134.21 (2 Jun 2002 15:47:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jun 2002 15:47:23 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.18-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1709167 -------- Original Message -------- Return-Path: Received: from ns.osirusoft.com (IDENT:root@osirusoft.com [168.103.84.164] (may be forged))by relays.osirusoft.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id g52Feme13295for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 08:40:48 -0700 Received: from rockford.anet.net (rockford.anet.net [216.2.98.227])by ns.osirusoft.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id g52FbZE06192for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 08:37:35 -0700 Received: from default.artnet.net (dialup-64.156.148.40.Dial1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.156.148.40])by rockford.anet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13596for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 08:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020602075759.00a18810@mail.artnet.net> X-Sender: penfold@mail.artnet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:19:24 -0700 To: joejared@osirusoft.com From: PENFOLD Subject: Please de-list Topica.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 3cfa3e9500000002 This is the *second* time this month that you've listed topica.com on your list database resulting in hundreds, perhaps *thousands* of people being unable to receive mailing list email from subscribed lists hosted by topica.com Since MONDAY 05/27/02 I've had absolutely no email coming from at least a *dozen* topica.com email lists I'm subscribed to. Numerous calls and emails to topica.com and my ISP have resulted in little next to nothing happening. What really irks me the most is that I OWN TWO EMAIL LISTS and I'm effectively shut out and locked out because you've listed topica.com in your database.....If the subscribers have a problem and try and email me from the list address, I'll never see it, they are forced to do extra work to contact me, which isn't right or fair to the users and subscribers of my mailing lists. Of the other mailing lists I'm subbed to, you've cut me off from being able to communicate with some of my close friends! This whole problem can be fixed either the Easy Way or the Hard Way: 1) The Easy Way is that you De-list Topica.com immediately and cease from listing topica in your database ever again. 2) The Hard Way is that the affected subscribers can *all* email you with similar pleas and clog up your system.....or even some enterprising subscribers with real legitimate business needs for their lists can see it through that some form of Legal Action be taken against your company for the Loss of Revenue & Business Pete Isaacson mailto:penfold@artnet.net http://www.anet.net/~penfold/index.html Yahoo Chat: penfold235 AIM: PENFOLD235 "We are a people so primitive, we named our planet DIRT!" Watch the Coasters Grow! at: http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html === Topica listwashes complainers instead of terminating their spammers === From: Todd-Slayer of Spamdragons Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica Listwashing, plus a topica addy for bitch-list Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:28:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NFilter: 1.2.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.242.238.224 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1027613685 209.242.238.224 (25 Jul 2002 11:14:45 -0500) Lines: 58 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 80,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1763317 See below, they are still listwashing, still can't abide by their own AUP. >Josh, >What I see here is a blatant disregard for not only my email, but for other's emails as well. I can assure you with my many years in the anti-spam community, that your customer is doing this to others. But all you did was ask them to remove my address from their list? That is ridiculous. Then you say it may take days even for the spam to stop, UNACCEPTABLE! I want to see your customer terminated for violating your AUP and infringing on my private property. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kanalog [mailto:kanalog@get.topica.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:12 AM >> To: T. R. Behrmann >> Subject: Re: [email][spam] Did life lift you up today - or bring you >> down? (KMM5403979V13439L0KM) >> >> >> Thank you for your inquiry. >> >> Thank you for notifying the Topica abuse team. We have >> unsubscribed this email address from the BlueDolphin newsletter. >> Please allow several business days for all queued mail to be >> processed. >> >> We share your concern that you've received unwanted email through >> one of Topica's services and appreciate the opportunity to >> investigate its source. We have logged this advisement of >> unsolicited commercial email and are investigating the situation. >> We are currently reviewing the practices of the Topica customer >> that originated this email for compliance with our anti-spam >> polices and acceptable use guidelines. >> >> Whether we are serving small or large clients, Topica has a >> strict permission email policy and each of our publishers >> represents to us that the addresses on their mailing lists have >> given permission to receive email from them. We take abuse of >> our permission email policy seriously and respond as necessary to >> preserve our standing as a responsible email provider. >> >> Please contact us with any further questions or comments. >> >> Regards, >> >> Josh >> Topica Customer Support >> http://www.topica.com ~+~+~+~ T-I-A Todd Internet Tech Specialist "The United States is in no manner founded on Christian principle." --George Washington -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- === More of Topica listwashing === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Diamondback Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica still listwashing, hope they enjoy their intranet. Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:49:51 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <0vp2mu4fq74oii87fv3pjjhm44h6tc5p5a@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NFilter: 1.2.0 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 10 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1782739 > Thank you for your inquiry. > > Thank you for notifying the Topica abuse team. We have > unsubscribed this email address from the 302 Media newsletter. > Please allow several business days for all queued mail to be > processed. ======== Email munged, sorry spammers. === And here is how Topica explains why they need full e-mail addresses === === of complainers === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!jmaynard From: jmaynard@thebrain.conmicro.cx (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica excuse for demanding real complaint addresses Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:57:24 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: Reply-To: jmaynard@conmicro.cx User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.4 (Linux) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 92 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1791260 Here's a reply I got to a message explaining why I didn't forward the spammed address to Topica. I dunno if this is standard boilerplate or not, but it seems fishy. Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:10:56 -0700 To: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: [LACP@topica.email-publisher.com: LACP September 2002 Newsletter] (KMM5771789V59002L0KM) From: Topica Abuse Team Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team Hi Jay, We apologize for the unwanted mail that you have received. The reason we request to receive full copy of the unwanted mail that you receive is so we can request sourcing information from the client who has been accused of sending unwanted mail. We also log these complaints to ensure that all clients remain in compliance with our policies. Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, and since SPEWS does not identify its members, we are having difficulty getting our case reviewed. We are confident that our indirect attempts to contact them will be successful -- hopefully soon. And we are also comforted by knowing that SPEWS has inaccurately accused other organizations and has taken corrective action. Topica has become one of the three largest providers of email in the U.S. We have many different types of customers, and all are told they can only receive service from us if they follow our policies which require permission-based email. We have a staff that monitors abuse and enforces our policy. The success of these efforts has led to great relationships with the major ISPs, many of whom "white list" mail from Topica. We appreciate and value your time and cooperation. Sincerely, Jeff Topica Abuse Team http://www.topica.com Original Message Follows: ------------------------- On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:14:52AM -0700, kanalog wrote: > Unfortunately, we have no exact match for the email address you > provided. That's because I carefully stripped it out of the email I forwarded. It was not the address I'm sending this message from. > You are most likely receiving the unwanted list emails through an > alias or forwarding address. Do you have any other email > addresses or aliases that may be receiving these emails? I know exactly what address the mail was sent to. I'm not interested in giving it to you, though. I don't believe in unsubscribing from something I never subscribed to. > Please forward the next, complete, unwanted list email you > receive (not this message) to: > mailto:unsubscribe@topica.com > We will do everything possible to resolve this situation for you > as quickly as possible. No. You want to listwash me. I don't do that. I forwarded the spam I got so you could terminate your spamming customer. Since you seem unwilling to do that, I'll unsubscribe from Topica, period, by blocking any and all Topica-related domains from sending mail to my system. It's this attitude on Topica's part that has landed it in SPEWS, and as long as Topica listwashes instead of terminating spamming customers, it'll remain in SPEWS and other blocklists. === More of spamming examples === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news-xfer.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com !grr!newsprint.netaxs.com!POSTED.newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica excuse for demanding real complaint addresses From: inactivex666@hotmail.com (InactiveX) Organization: Okefenokee Chowder and Marching Society X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 57 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:35:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.106.76.186 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 1030703757 206.106.76.186 (Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:35:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:35:57 EDT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1791665 In article , jmaynard@thebrain.conmicro.cx says... > >Here's a reply I got to a message explaining why I didn't forward the >spammed address to Topica. I dunno if this is standard boilerplate or not, >but it seems fishy. > >Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:10:56 -0700 >To: Jay Maynard >Subject: Re: [LACP@topica.email-publisher.com: LACP September 2002 Newsletter] > (KMM5771789V59002L0KM) >From: Topica Abuse Team >Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team > >Hi Jay, > >We apologize for the unwanted mail that you have received. > ... >Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization >which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS >asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less >than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, and >since SPEWS does not identify its members, we are having >difficulty getting our case reviewed. We are confident that our >indirect attempts to contact them will be successful -- hopefully >soon. And we are also comforted by knowing that SPEWS has >inaccurately accused other organizations and has taken corrective >action. > ... > >Sincerely, > >Jeff >Topica Abuse Team >http://www.topica.com > > Bull hockey. One of your clients, emailpublishers, I thinkit was, last fall RELENTLESSLY spammed my wife. She repeatedly attempted to unsubscribe from the mailings, ALL of which were completely unsolicited. Her address had obviously been 'targeted' due to her job as an editor. The flood of spam stopped only after I fired of a ballistic complaint to every address I could find associated with the spam, and faxed a copy as well. Obviously at that point her addresses was list-washed. Which is all you intend to do now. Topica in any incarnation should be blacklisted on site. Just my opinion based on my on personal experience. === Topica's "false assertion" is a lie === Path: uni-berlin.de!hunt-pri2-a14.txucom.NET!not-for-mail From: caeruleo@yahoo.com (Caeruleo) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica excuse for demanding real complaint addresses Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 06:14:47 -0500 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: hunt-pri2-a14.txucom.net (209.34.8.60) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1030705855 54663277 209.34.8.60 (16 [141024]) X-Orig-Path: caeruleo X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1791679 Posted & mailed to abuse@topica.com. In article , jmaynard@conmicro.cx wrote: > Here's a reply I got to a message explaining why I didn't forward the > spammed address to Topica. I dunno if this is standard boilerplate or not, > but it seems fishy. > > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:10:56 -0700 > To: Jay Maynard > Subject: Re: [LACP@topica.email-publisher.com: LACP September 2002 Newsletter] > (KMM5771789V59002L0KM) > From: Topica Abuse Team > Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team > > Hi Jay, > > We apologize for the unwanted mail that you have received. > > The reason we request to receive full copy of the unwanted mail > that you receive is so we can request sourcing information from > the client who has been accused of sending unwanted mail. We > also log these complaints to ensure that all clients remain in > compliance with our policies. > > Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization > which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS > asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less > than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, It is? Gee, I wonder what all this is then: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=66.180.247.21&num=100&scoring=d Looks like spam to me, & it's all from a single IP, 66.180.247.21, which is most definitely a Topica IP in its UPN netblock. Oh, & all this sure looks like spam to me too, & again all from a single Topica IP: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=66.180.247.30&num=100&scoring=d And boy howdy, look at this one: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=66.180.247.23&num=100&scoring=d Shall I do searches on more Topica IPs to see what has been publicly-archived to have come from them, or is this enough? Your claim that it is a "false assertion" that you allow spam is based on...what, exactly? === And Topica STILL spams the non-existant e-mail boxes of people who has === === never subscribed === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: bertha@yetta.net (Bertha) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica excuse for demanding real complaint addresses Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:06:53 -0000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bertha@yetta.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.1 (Linux) X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 19 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1791268 On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 22:57:24 -0000, Jay Maynard muttered something like: > Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization > which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS > asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less > than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, and This is an incorrect assertion. I have an address that's been abandoned for about a year, and it's still bouncing mail from topica every week. I never subscribed to anything from them. -Bertha -- Giles: This Saturday's going to need a great deal of preparation. Willow: Well, we'll help. Xander: Yeah, I'll whittle stakes. Willow: And I can research stuff. Xander: And while I'm whittling, I plan to whistle a jaunty tune. === More people bounce Topica's spams === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: gort@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica excuse for demanding real complaint addresses Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:56:59 -0000 Organization: tino Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: jseymour@LinxNet.com X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 125 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1791835 In article , jmaynard@thebrain.conmicro.cx (Jay Maynard) writes: [snip] > > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:10:56 -0700 > To: Jay Maynard > Subject: Re: [LACP@topica.email-publisher.com: LACP September 2002 Newsletter] > (KMM5771789V59002L0KM) > From: Topica Abuse Team > Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team > > Hi Jay, > > We apologize for the unwanted mail that you have received. Yeah, I just bet they do. *snerk* > > The reason we request to receive full copy of the unwanted mail > that you receive is so we can request sourcing information from > the client who has been accused of sending unwanted mail. We > also log these complaints to ensure that all clients remain in > compliance with our policies. All the "evidence" Topica's going to get from *me* is that provided below. Enjoy. > > Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization > which is recommending that its members filter our email. No. SPEWS is saying "We have determined that we don't want Topica traffic on our networks." They're simply sharing that opinion with others. > SPEWS > asserts that we are allowing spam. An assertion that would appear to be well-founded. I have Topica-originated traffic in my spam archives at work. I have Topica-originated traffic in my spam archives at home. I have Topica-originated traffic in my spamtrap archives. Now, since neither I nor my spamtraps opted-in for any of that stuff, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's probably... spam? (I looked. It's spam.) Topica continues to try to send to my real and spamtrap addresses, at all of the mail servers I admin, *despite* the fact those servers have been 5xx'ing Topica's attempts since anywhere from on-or-about April 19 or on-or-about May 29th, based on SPEWS or blackholes.2mbit.com listings. Here's something I wouldn't have noticed but for Topica's insistence on claiming their innocence despite what would appear to be overwhelming evidence to the contrary. In searching through my daily and weekly mail log analysis data for the paragraph above, I couldn't help but notice that my servers seem to spend an inordinate amount of time accepting email from (well, used to) their servers and trying send *something* to them. I'm not going to go to the trouble of finding out what was being sent to them, I'll just take a guess. I'm guessing it's largely "undeliverable" bounces? > This claim is impacting less > than 1% of our mail flow. Well then, no worries, right? And since Topica is now impacting 0% of my and my internal customers' mailboxes, everybody's happy, right? > However, it is a false assertion, What, the "spamming" assertion? I believe I've already addressed that one. > and > since SPEWS does not identify its members, SPEWS doesn't have "members." SPEWS has... oh, let's call them "subscribers." I'm one of 'em. On all the mail servers for which I exercise administrative control. > we are having > difficulty getting our case reviewed. I have just completed a review of Topica's case. Verdict: they would appear to be either spammers or a spam support service. Consequently, the mail servers I administer will not accept traffic from their mail servers. My mail servers have told their mail servers that many, many times over the last three or more months. Topica appears unable to take a hint. > We are confident that our > indirect attempts to contact them will be successful -- hopefully > soon. More likely: never? Or was that an indirect threat? > And we are also comforted by knowing that SPEWS has > inaccurately accused other organizations and has taken corrective > action. Yes, *when* they've inaccurately listed. IMO that does not apply in Topica's case. > > Topica has become one of the three largest providers of email in > the U.S. [snip] That may very well be. I don't particularly care. I do know that what Topica has become, if nothing else, is an email provider whose traffic is not now, and may never be, welcome at any mailserver for which I exercise administrative control. > > We appreciate and value your time and cooperation. [snip] Topica is quite welcome, except on my mail servers. -- Jim Seymour | "Some of the lies are so strange it WARNING: The "From:" address is a | makes you wonder about the spammer's spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | sanity." 2x4@cluestick.org | - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02 === Topica is rejected by e-mail hosting companies for Denial of Service === http://www.shanjemail.com/faq.html Q) I am not receiving any mail from Yahoo Groups and Topica, what happened? Yahoo and Topica have been blocked for supporting denial of service attacks from their service due to incorrectly configured servers on their side. The problem is that neither Topica or Yahoo will correctly handle SMTP Error 451 and 551 Full Mailbox. When a mailandnews account is full it returns a temporary error 451 Recipient mailbox is full After three days and no change in status, a permanent error is sent 551 Recipient mailbox is full Days, months, even years after receiving a permanent error, Topica and Yahoo will continue sending email to mailboxes that are reporting full. In some cases a single account might receive a thousand messages per day. For every message sent, our servers send an error message back to Yahoo and Topica and it is ignored. This creates a tremendous and unnecessary load on our servers and is also a major drain on our bandwidth. This is a violation of the RFC's for handling email and error messages. These two companies are responsible for over 80% of all error messages our servers send out and over 20% of all email traffic coming into the system. Topica and Yahoo are the only ones that are doing this. Most other email list companies correctly handle full mail box messages. Yahoo has not responded to any of our email asking for help resolving this problem. So we implemented the blocks on Wedensday, May 8, 2002. Topica has been blocked since April 24, 2002. We tried to work with Topica for weeks before implementing the block. Despite numerous emails from Topica promising to fix the problem, Topica has not done anything. The fix is simple. If an email account is full, after a certain period of time, the email list company needs to remove the address from the list and quit attempting to send invalid email. Here is who to contact at Topica. Otto Imken Director of ISP Relatons (sic) isp-abuse@get.topica.com Topica, Inc. 620 Folsom St. San Francisco CA, 94107 Phone: 415.344.0800 Fax: 415.344.0900 If you can suggest who we can contact at Yahoo please let us know. We want to remove these blocks, but we need these companies to be responsible Internet citizens. === Latest from Topica - they try to go around blocklists === Path: uni-berlin.de!203-134-120-066.cust.mel.iprimus.net.AU!not-for-mail From: Brad Hann Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: topica tries to get around spews Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:37:32 +1000 Organization: Hotkey Internet Services Lines: 57 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-134-120-066.cust.mel.iprimus.net.au (203.134.120.66) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1032298653 3765825 203.134.120.66 (16 [146665]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1808756 Just received this in my postmaster box... I am writing to you because Topica serves a large number of subscribers that also use your service and because our logs indicate you are blocking all mail from all Topica mail servers. Up until now, weve continued to send you mail, hoping the block was temporary. We are now going to stop mailing to your domain, and we wanted to open a dialogue about giving you some choice about how we do this. Today we only have the ability to send mail to your domain from all Topica products or none. However, if you are willing to make a small, one-time change on your side, you could block mail from specific Topica services and their dedicated IP blocks and not others. The customers who will most miss your mail are probably subscribed to e-mail lists sent from our IP blocks one through three (see below) and so wed like to give you some information about each IP block and suggest you selectively open access from some of them, at your discretion. We will need to hear back from you whether you will open some of these IP blocks. If we dont hear from you, a week from now we will stop sending all mail to your domain, and well also notify our mutual subscribers that their inability to receive Topica mail through you is probably not going to change. We continue to learn as we grow. Previously, all Topica mail was served through mail servers on one IP block. Now we have placed different types of mail on separate IP blocks so that the ISP community can make the decision whether to selectively filter based on the nature of the users and the level of permission on each IP block. We should note, however, that we enforce the need for permission-based mail across all of our IPs and services. All mail sent from Topica identifies the sender, includes working unsubscription links, and is being sent by a party that has verified permission-based practices. We have a full-time abuse team enforcing policies and monitoring practices. We suspend customers who do not conform to our standards. As a result of these practices, we have good relationships with the largest ISPs and most medium to small ISPsover 97% of our mail is not blocked each day. However, we recognize and respect that certain ISPs and domains will not take mail that either is not 100% closed loop confirmed or that is sent by bulk mailers, regardless of the practices they follow. We therefore have separated our outgoing mail onto distinct IP ranges so that you can choose which to accept. Ill note the IP ranges below, and provide information about each. For example, please note that IP range One is reserved for traffic that is 100% closed loop confirmed. Please write me to let me know if you will accept mail from any of these, or if we should proceed on our side. Thank you very much for your consideration and of course I will look forward to answering any questions. Yours, Otto Imken Director of Privacy & Standards Topica, Inc. otto@get.topica.com 415.344.3852 http://www.topica.com/ Topicas IP Blocks 66.180.244.10-35 = tpca.net: Used only for traffic where all subscriptions haveYahoo! News - Today's headlines Brad -- bjhann at hotkey dot net dot au bhann at starway dot net dot au From lart_sender@yahoo.com Thu Jun 27 21:56:07 2002 Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!feed.cgocable.net!cy2!cy1!newsfeed.shawcable.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-la!propagator-la!news-in.superfeed.net!news-in-la.newsfeeds.com!feeder.nmix.net!reader.nmix.net!oracle.zianet.com!cafe.oasiscybercafe.com From: "Matthew J. Evans" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: BLOCK/SPEWS: Topica's New Host/S1522 Update Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:24:59 -0600 Organization: NMIX Lines: 95 Message-ID: <3d1abddb.0@oracle.zianet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: oracle.zianet.com X-Trace: reader.nmix.net 1025163696 16067 204.134.124.52 (27 Jun 2002 07:41:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@nmix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Jun 2002 07:41:36 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1730775 Topica/email-publisher has moved to UPnetworks (spam-friendly hosting - see .sightings). See SPAM-L for Otto's message why (Above.net closed their colo facilities). Netname: UPN-BLK-01 Netblock: 66.180.224.0 - 66.180.255.255 Netname: SBCIS-UPNETWORKS Netblock: 64.163.144.0 - 64.163.151.255 None of the Above.net stuff seems to reply for me - looks like they're gone from there. Some of the more common hosts aren't resolving to the new network yet, but most are. A few topica host names show the move in progress: boing.topica.com has address 64.125.140.140 (Above.net - dead) outmta001.topica.com has address 66.180.244.21 outmta020.topica.com has address 66.180.244.40 (UPN) boing001.topica.com has address 66.180.244.140 (UPN) boing002.topica.com has address 66.180.244.141 (UPN) ======================================================= Registrant: Topica, Inc. 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US Domain Name: TOPICA.COM Administrative Contact: Administrator, Systems hostmaster@topica.com 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-344-0800 Technical Contact: Administrator, Systems hostmaster@topica.com 620 Folsom Street Suite 300 San Francisco, CA 94107 US 415-344-0800 Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 09-May-2002. Record expires on 05-Feb-2003. Record Created on 06-Feb-1998. Domain servers in listed order: NS3.TOPICA.COM 64.163.147.6 NS1.TOPICA.COM 66.180.244.8 NS2.TOPICA.COM 208.184.76.200 ===================================================== UPnetworks Inc (NETBLK-UPN-BLK-01) 555 Howard St San Francisco, CA 94105 US Netname: UPN-BLK-01 Netblock: 66.180.224.0 - 66.180.255.255 Maintainer: UPNT Coordinator: Forster, Dan (DF799-ARIN) hostmaster@upn.net 415-284-2222 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NS1.UPN.NET 66.180.227.22 NS2.UPN.NET 66.180.227.23 UPNetworks, Inc. (NETBLK-SBCIS-UPNETWORKS) 303 2nd St. San Francisco, CA US Netname: SBCIS-UPNETWORKS Netblock: 64.163.144.0 - 64.163.151.255 Coordinator: Pacific Bell Internet (PIA2-ORG-ARIN) ip-admin@PBI.NET 888-212-5411 Record last updated on 24-Aug-2000. Database last updated on 26-Jun-2002 20:00:16 EDT. === Topica - new IPs === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!HSNX.atgi.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!168.103.84.164!ns.osirusoft.com!Aurora!alanb From: Alan Brown Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: SPEWS: S1522 - Topica appears on XO (not DNSBL listed yet) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 05:08:15 -0400 Organization: OsiruSoft Research & Engineering Lines: 50 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: digistar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ns.osirusoft.com 1032426509 30400 198.94.138.14 (19 Sep 2002 09:08:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.osirusoft.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Sep 2002 09:08:29 GMT X-X-Sender: alanb@Aurora Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1812213 See below - 206.111.131.64/27 isn't in SPEWS (yet) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 02:04:42 -0700 From: Scott Nelson Subject: Re: BLOCK: Topica appears on XO (not DNSBL listed yet) We've been using a corporate account with XO/Concentric for about 3 years now. We don't use our corporate line to send out any production mail - only staff/corp mail. We've occasionally used it for test/staging mail. Some will remember that RFG got upset because our engineers like monkeys too...and used monkey.com in fake test accounts in the past. Any mail sent through a Yahoo! account originating from our net is probably one of our abuse folks trying to get mail through to an ISP that is blocking us. Of course if you're the type of who blocks anything that lives within 20 miles of our office then yes our corporate block is 206.111.131.64/27. thx, Scott Nelson Director of Operations, Topica Inc. At 4:37 AM -0400 9/19/02, Alan Brown wrote: >There's a thread in nanae right now titled "topica tries to get around SPEWS" > >Headers were just posted showing that the mail they sent was sent via a >Yahoo webmail account, but originated from 206.111.131.88. > >$ host 206.111.131.88 >88.131.111.206.in-addr.arpa is an alias for >88.64/27.131.111.206.in-addr.arpa. >88.64/27.131.111.206.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer gw1-sf.topica.com. > > >OrgName: XO Communications >OrgID: XOXO > >NetRange: 206.111.0.0 - 206.111.255.255 >CIDR: 206.111.0.0/16 >NetName: XOXO-BLK-1 === Topica comes out with a speech (lies, as usual) === From billm@get.topica.com Thu Oct 17 11:05:30 2002 Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!global-news-master From: "Bill McCaulley" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements Date: 17 Oct 2002 06:00:17 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 125 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.111.131.67 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1838129 TO: Abuse and ISP Community FROM: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements - There has been discussion here and in other forums of Topica's efforts to control abuse as we have grown and launched new products. We've been listening, and often taking action. We have not always informed this community of our work. We are going to begin to regularly communicate about our efforts to reduce abuse and other related improvements. We won't ask for feedback here, nor will we respond to questions except of a technical nature. We welcome both, however, and so I invite you to write me directly. The first of the formal communications will come later this week. We have some ground to cover so the first few updates may come quickly. The actual frequency will eventually be once or twice a month. Updates will cover whichever of the following categories are relevant. Policy and Procedures --------------------- This area will cover changes in our policies or procedures that will affect our Acceptable Use Policy, Privacy Standards or other procedures that will limit our abuse complaints. Customer Actions ---------------- Announcements of customer or list terminations and changes. Product Features ---------------- Enhancements or changes to our software that will have a substantial effect on our product features as these relate to abuse prevention and management. Operational Issues ------------------ Significant changes to our production or server environment that will affect our user community and ISP partners To contact Topica for Abuse, ISP or other issues please use the following contact information: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- General email inquiries - isp-abuse@get.topica.com Bill McCaulley - Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards billm@get.topica.com 415-344-3809 Josh Barrack - Assoc. Director of ISP Relations joshb@get.topica.com 415-344-3819 Current Topica Operational information: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Topica Production IP Space 66.180.244/24 - Topica Exchange and Topica Email Publisher domains - tpca.net Used only for traffic where all subscriptions have been closed-loop confirmed by the recipient. 66.180.245/24 - Topica Enterprise clients (opt-in) domains - tep1.com Used primarily by our corporate and magazine publishers. 66.180.246/24 - Topica Email Publisher (opt-in) domains - tepmail.com Our paid self-service product used by smaller publishers, non-profits and trade associations. 66.180.247/24 - Topica Perform (opt-in) domains - tfmb.net Our largest customers, and those with the most mailing frequency. Topica Corporate IP Space 206.111.131.64/27 Our commercial web sites are http://www.topica.com/ and http://www.email-publisher.com/ === And what people think about it === From spamusnot@spamusnot.no.invald.net Thu Oct 17 11:05:36 2002 Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!News.GigaNews.Com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: "SpamUsNot" From: "SpamUsNot" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email References: Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:04:20 -0500 Organization: SpamUsNot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: Lines: 96 X-Trace: sv3-cdNu/sUudmOL0BI1DVfNHmlBTibGS3twxv6E7P4MaIDfIqIHGw4LG8OpfX+BZIkk3PjI5AZJHzMU2Ed!qsAQg3RFjD6bfpbhmzYtInLMyazZWM/iy0js8cld6RrrDxx/pKY/BHAh8p1/pWnw9MQayFMfJA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@Texas.Net X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1838173 "Bill McCaulley" wrote in message news:aoljlh$ifu@dispatch.concentric.net... > TO: Abuse and ISP Community > snip > > Our paid self-service product used by smaller publishers, non-profits and > trade associations. > > 66.180.247/24 - Topica Perform (opt-in)> > domains - tfmb.net > > Our largest customers, and those with the most mailing frequency. > Hello Bill You shouldn't start off lying about being opt-in. Folks are likely to call you a LIAR. At best topica opt out or even better yet just blocked. You seem to have forgotten you guys already said that your largest customers were your largest spammers and all blocks have use of email-publisher's spam stealth features. anyway... I suppose this [66.180.247.34] would fall in your largest customers, and those with the most spamming frequency (new spamware like feature or one of those enhancements? ) Forged sender domain in header: dvd@dvd.email-publisher.com 10/15/02 dns dvd.email-publisher.com No DNS for this address www.email-publisher.com [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522 [1] UPnetworks, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1734 [1] ahahealth, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1281 [1] Berrytrim, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S382 ==== spam ==== Received: from vmf-ext.prodigy.net by vmf with SMTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:50:03 -0400 X-Originating-IP: [66.180.247.34] Received: from out014.tfmb.net (out014.tfmb.net [66.180.247.34]) by vmf-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with SMTP id g9F9o3M2443178 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:50:03 -0400 To: x From: Daily Value Deals Subject: Perfect Skin at any age...At No Charge! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:04:03 -0700 Message-ID: <9__________@topica.com> Errors-To: Reply-To: perf-remove.5__________.0.1@boing.topica.com X-Topica-Id: <__________> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dont' want it, didn't ask for it, The last thing anyone needs is another daily value deal from topica. ===== BTW: not that I have faith in you... Do ya suppose this "largest customer" is Eric Reinertsen? www.Your-Info.Net ~ dstream.email-publisher.com http://spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL4535 http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/search.lasso?evidencefile=1173 [1] Reinertsen, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1519 Return-Path: Received: from out014.tfmb.net (out014.tfmb.net [66.180.247.34]) by franklin.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP MX 1.0] id g9H2JtV11414; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:19:55 -0400 (EDT) To: x From: "Your-Info.Net Offers" Subject: Got a Web site but don't want to spend a ton on hosting? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:06:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1001______________________9@topica.com> Errors-To: Reply-To: perf-remove.5__________________.2@boing.topica.com X-Topica-Id: <___________> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Scott - You still out there? Oh well I'll check for responses tomorrow. === Another reply === From jeff@sdsc.edu Thu Oct 17 11:05:40 2002 Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!logbridge.uoregon.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: jeff@sdsc.edu (Jeff Makey) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center, San Diego, California Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: darwin.sdsc.edu X-Trace: news1.ucsd.edu 1034838076 7845 132.249.32.100 (17 Oct 2002 07:01:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1.ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1838154 In article , Bill McCaulley wrote: >The first of the formal communications will come later this week. Someone at Topica must have jumped the gun, because we have already blocked about 200 of those "communications" so far this week. That's almost as much as we blocked the whole previous week. :: Jeff Makey jeff@sdsc.edu Department of Tautological Pleonasms and Superfluous Redundancies Department === And the next one === From stradsBIKINI@excite.com Thu Oct 17 11:05:43 2002 Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!gail.ripco.com!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: George Crissman Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:51:37 -0700 Organization: Please remove BIKINI to send email. Thank you. Message-ID: <45nsqus2fckj0t383as5abejhm2glaai5m@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 27 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1838152 On 17 Oct 2002 06:00:17 GMT, "Bill McCaulley" wrote: Are you going to continue the dialog with spam victims? >We won't ask for feedback here, nor >will we respond to questions except of a technical nature. We welcome both, >however, Doublespeak. Just what we've come to expect from topica. Are you planning to read your abuse@topica.com mailbox or your postmaster@topica.com mailbox in accordance with RFC 2142? >To contact Topica for Abuse, ISP or other issues please use the following >contact information: >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >General email inquiries - isp-abuse@get.topica.com In a word, "no". Just what we've come to expect from topica. Looks like business as usual at topica. George Crissman Made Up Facts Division The Lumber Cartel (tinlc) San Diego Chapter stradsBIKINI@excite.com === Yet another Topica's "announcement", still no mandatory confirmed opt-in === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com !nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net !nntp-out.svc.us.xo.net!nntp1-feeder.SJ.svc.us.xo.net!newsfeed.concentric.net !sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!nntp-master.svc.us.xo.net From: "Bill McCaulley" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements 10/21/02 Date: 22 Oct 2002 03:16:16 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 63 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.111.131.67 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1840708 TO: Abuse and ISP Community FROM: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements - 10/21/02 Below is an update of issues from Topica. In addition to the following actions, we've added to our abuse team. Josh Barrack has joined the staff as Associate Director of ISP relations. Josh understands the issues well. He has previous experience as Manager, Network Security and Compliance at Mail.com and Brigade Solutions. Customer Actions ---------------- The following customer relation ships have been terminated: Way Below Wholesale Heartfelt Diamonds Abolish Abortion Product Features ---------------- Topica introduced new software enhancements. Some of these are 1. TEP customers now have the ability to use closed-loop confirmation to confirm all new subscribers added to their email lists. Publishers using this option, like those using the free Topica Exchange services, would add new names only when the subscriber responded to a message sent to his or her mailbox. 2. Another new feature allows users of TEP to automatically send a greeting to each new subscriber and a farewell confirmation to those who unsubscribe. This feature, which can be used in conjunction with or separate from the closed-loop confirmation capabilities, gives each subscriber an additional opportunity to inform a publisher if their name has been added or deleted without their intent. 3. The company enhanced its "customer protection tool" (CPT), a monitor which examines each list imported and looks for irregularities that could suggest the list of names is not permission-based. With the enhancement, any list that is questionable is automatically "locked" and unable to send until a member of the Topica policy team reviews with the list owner the provenance of the list. To contact Topica for Abuse, ISP or other issues please use the following contact information: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- General email inquiries - isp-abuse@get.topica.com Bill McCaulley - Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards billm@get.topica.com 415-344-3809 Josh Barrack - Assoc. Director of ISP Relations joshb@get.topica.com 415-344-3819 === Replies - 1 === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.servidellagleba.it!alix.livenet.it !angela.livenet.it!nntp.infostrada.it!xmission!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com !propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com !news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!news-xfer.cox.net!news.lightlink.com !wasp.rahul.net!blue.rahul.net!not-for-mail From: axlq@spamcop.net (axlq) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements 10/21/02 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Organization: a2i network Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mauve.rahul.net X-Trace: blue.rahul.net 1035303572 11606 192.160.13.69 (22 Oct 2002 16:19:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: support@rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: unicorn@mauve.rahul.net (Alex Matulich) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1840960 In article , Bill McCaulley wrote: >Topica introduced new software enhancements. Some of these are > >1. TEP customers now have the ability to use closed-loop confirmation to >confirm all new subscribers added to their email lists. Publishers using >this option, Option? It should be mandatory. If it was, then you wouldn't be so widely blocked, and wouldn't have to be posting here. > 2. Another new feature allows users of TEP to automatically send a greeting >to each new subscriber and a farewell confirmation to those who unsubscribe. Any spam I get, I don't unsubscribe the recipient address. Instead I "unsubscribe" spamtrap addresses that automatically result in getting added to widely-used blocking lists if they are spammed again. If ANY of your users send out an unsubscribe acknowledgment, they WILL be blocked. That's the way the procedure works. Unsubscribed addresses should NEVER be sent mail again, period. -A === And here is more Topica spam === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news-out.cwix.com !newsfeed.cwix.com!sooner.brightok.net!not-for-mail From: "BrightNet Abuse Administrator" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email References: Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements 10/21/02 Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: <0Wct9.72$b4.4495@sooner.brightok.net> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:05:15 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.30.110.182 X-Trace: sooner.brightok.net 1035295484 206.30.110.182 (Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:04:44 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:04:44 CDT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1840849 > > Product Features > ---------------- > Topica introduced new software enhancements. Some of these are > [snip] Obviously they aren't fully implimented yet or functioning up to par. Why do I say this? Not all of us can afford to run Spews, but it doesn't mean we want the spam. TOPICA UPN-TOPICA-BLK1 (NET-66-180-244-0-1) 66.180.244.0 - 66.180.247.255 X-From_: perf-errors.2862.101682.44505100.501.0.4@boing.topica.com Tue Oct 22 00:46:56 2002 Received: from bfo503.topica.com (out006.tfmb.net [66.180.247.26]) by boomer.brightok.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g9M5ksr6013950 for <1way@brightok.net>; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 00:46:55 -0500 (CDT) To: 1way@brightok.net From: Creditor Services Subject: Credit card debt? a solution that really works! Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:14:44 -0700 Message-ID: <101682.2862.562065483-1463747838-1035263684@topica.com> Errors-To: X-Topica-Id: <1035260110.svc001.6570.1000422> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="TEP-410165854.1463792894.1035260101" Content-Length: 3676 === Topica does NOT require the confirmed opt-in policy for all users === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net !newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!nntp-out.svc.us.xo.net !nntp1-feeder.SJ.svc.us.xo.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!sjc1.nntp.concentric.net !nntp-master.svc.us.xo.net From: "Bill McCaulley" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica Update Date: 23 Oct 2002 00:27:18 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 38 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.111.131.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1841151 >-----Original Message----- >From: Mr. Demeanour [mailto:mrdemeanour@jackpot.uk.net] >Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:52 AM >To: billm@get.topica.com >Subject: Special Treatment for NANAE >You said in NANAE: >With regard to your spiffy "closed-loop" sign-up, why not make it >mandatory? Yahoo does, and it could hardly be claimed that >Yahoo Groups is damaged by the policy. All of our discussion list are mandatory confirmed-opt-in, just like Yahoo Groups. We are now attempting to get our small email-publisher customers to use confirmed opt-in, especially as many of them are converts from our discussion groups. This is a different platform from our discussion lists and also sent from a different range of IP addressees. -- Regards, Bill === And a reply to this post === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.abs.net !feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: Jules Dubois Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Update Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:50:15 -0400 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbfZQ8Z0X94Q9cxUCozKcRCWi2ahCJ9jyBoGZE2ZDiJp03Q6N4RZTH0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 Oct 2002 01:50:23 GMT X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.60 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1841193 In article , billm@get.topica.com says... > We are now attempting to get our small email-publisher customers to > use confirmed opt-in, especially as many of them are converts from our > discussion groups. This is an exceptionally weak statement. Topica needs to compel its "small email-publisher customers" to use confirmed opt-in. > This is a different platform from our discussion lists and also sent from a > different range of IP addressees. "platform"? "different range of IP addresses"? Who cares? Topica must use confirmed opt-in for each and every email message it sends, without a single exception. === And the spam from Topica continues === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!opentransit.net!newsfeed.icl.net !newsfeed.fjserv.net!mango.news.easynet.net!easynet.net!easynet-post2 !not-for-mail From: "Barry Dorrans" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica spamming, hawking BMG Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:35:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 56 Message-ID: <3db65f62$0$19856$afc38c87@auth.uk.news.easynet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.172.155.85 X-Trace: 1035362146 19856 wibble@dsl.easynet.co.uk/212.172.155.85 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1843435 Now considering I know a few people within BMG Europe, what's the best way to make them aware of this? Does it look like an affilate spam to anyone? Return-Path: Delivered-To: SNIP Received: (qmail 41577 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 04:38:48 -0000 Received: from news-peer.gradwell.net (HELO amber.gradwell.net) (195.149.39.220) by pop3.gradwell.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 2002 04:38:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 76275 invoked by uid 800); 23 Oct 2002 04:38:47 -0000 Delivered-To: SNIP X-Gradwell-Mailfilter: Spam detected by SpamAssassin with 3.9 hits (3 required) X-Gradwell-Mailfilter: SpamAssassin hits were CLICK_BELOW FREQ_SPAM_PHRASE X-AntiVirus-Gradwell: Scanned for viruses by gradwell.net on 2002-10-23 05:38:47 X-Envelope-To: SNIP X-Forwarding-To: SNIP Received: (qmail 76269 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2002 04:38:45 -0000 Received: from out014.tfmb.net (66.180.247.34) by amber.gradwell.net with SMTP; 23 Oct 2002 04:38:45 -0000 To: SNIP From: BMG Music Service Subject: SPAM TAGGED: Get 12 CDs for the price of 1 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: <102954.5798.1859907387-1463747838-1035339620@topica.com> Errors-To: Reply-To: perf-remove.5798.102954.16344739.0.0.1@boing.topica.com X-Topica-Id: <1035338406.svc001.6567.1000942> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Save Up To $197 at BMG Music Service. 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To unsubscribe from these mailings, please click here: http://dstream.tfmb.net/?aaabFG.abgKaZ.aaaAWI.aaaaab.aaaaaa.barryd@bann.co.u k === And about Topica's so-called "unsubscribe" === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net !spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: topica, you asshole X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) From: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com (JM) Lines: 5 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:30:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.203.91.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1035505826 151.203.91.148 (Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:30:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:30:26 EDT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1844426 Topica are blatent liars! Someone or something at the abuse account told me I will be removed and it will be "investigated". Sure it stopped for a week, but now I got spammed again! Enough with the listwasing! Make us all happy and cease to exist. === Plus - headers (full spams are listed after this post) === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net !spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: topica, you asshole X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) From: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com (JM) References: Lines: 68 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 03:16:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.203.91.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc02.gnilink.net 1035515799 151.203.91.148 (Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:16:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:16:39 EDT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1844519 quoting: >Please post headers. > >Not that we disbelieve you - it's easy to believe - but it's just another >archived nail in Topica's self-constructed coffin. > >If you can, send a copy over to news.admin.net-abuse.sightings as well. >Thanks! From: FulleAffordable To: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:31:27 -0700 Subject: Planning to Sell or Buy a Home Soon? Message-ID: <104206.6012.1952089011-1463747838-1035491487@topica.com> Reply-To: perf-remove.6012.104206.4766291.0.0.4@boing.topica.com Received: from mx12.nyc.untd.com (mx12.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.72]) by m4.bos.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85S8XKAXKJ572 for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:56:41 -0400 (EST) Received: from out005.tfmb.net (out005.tfmb.net [66.180.247.25]) by mx12.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85S8XKAQT88NS for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:56:41 -0400 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Topica-Id: <1035484206.svc001.8376.1000028> Errors-To: Return-Path: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="TEP-541815195.1463793150.1035484201" Message-ID: <104206.6012.1952089011-1463747838-1035491487@topica.com> Complete spam posted in NANAS Subject: [email] [Topica] Planning to Sell or Buy a Home Soon? Message-ID: <20021024.201404.-1862429.1.hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com> From: Technical Advisory To: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:24:26 -0700 Subject: Your Internet Connection may be Malfunctioning-- Message-ID: <103672.5182.1737452208-1463792126-1035476666@topica.com> Reply-To: perf-remove.5182.103672.17204513.0.0.4@boing.topica.com Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.126]) by m4.bos.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85SW9MAXZGXT2 for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:23 -0400 (EST) Received: from out007.tfmb.net (out007.tfmb.net [66.180.247.27]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA85SW9GANYBAM2 for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:18 -0400 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Topica-Id: <1035475436.svc001.22563.1000166> Errors-To: Return-Path: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="TEP-1145484051.1463792894.1035475211" Message-ID: <103672.5182.1737452208-1463792126-1035476666@topica.com> Complete spam posted in NANAS Subject: [email] [Topica] Your Internet Connection may be Malfunctioning Message-ID: <20021024.201325.-1862429.0.hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com> === Full spams (from NANAS Google archives) - 1 === http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024.201404.-1862429.1.hanson_will_be_destroyed%40juno.com&output=gplain From: Jason T Mangiafico Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings Subject: [email] [Topica] Planning to Sell or Buy a Home Soon? 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For a copy of the guidelines to this group, see: === Full spams (from NANAS Google archives) - 2 === http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20021024.201325.-1862429.0.hanson_will_be_destroyed%40juno.com&output=gplain From: Jason T Mangiafico Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings Subject: [email] [Topica] Your Internet Connection may be Malfunctioning Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.email Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Organization: VeriMod () Lines: 342 Approved: nanas-sub@cybernothing.org Message-ID: <20021024.201325.-1862429.0.hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: victor.killfile.org 1035504956 10175 216.43.25.138 (25 Oct 2002 00:15:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@killfile.org X-Broken-Header: No-Html-Pls!: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-11,13-16,18-42,44,46-49,51,53,55-57,59-73,75-78,80-86,88-90,92,95-96,98-99,102,106,109-111,114,116,119-122,124-125,128,130,132-133,137,139,141-143,145,147-148,150,152-155,157,160-162,165,169,172-174,177-178,180-181,184,187,189-190,192,194-195,197,199,201-206,208,211,213-216,219-222,224-226,229-235,238-244,247-253,256-259,261-264,267-270,272-275,278-279,282,285-293,295-296,298-300,303,305,307,309-311,314-316,319-324,327-331 Processed-By: Bob the NANAS ModBot X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP news.admin.net-abuse.sightings iD8DBQE9uI08v1i8LqUfqQURAguQAJ9wMBN8sQuXadnQXwYdCTYZfVNE2ACeOXXn aSIrIL40NSHzddud2LVUmGo= =JI/w X-Group-Homepage: X-Mail-Path: root@unagi.cybernothing.org!m4.bos.untd.com!cookie.juno.com[UNTRUSTED]!hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com X-Modbot: Bob the NANAS ModBot X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:13:24 -0400 X-Original-To: spamdesk@support.juno.com, spamrecycle@ChooseYourMail.com, submit.Dhr71eWY6fSNekQb@spam.spamcop.net, uce@ftc.gov, nanas-sub@cybernothing.org, abuse@topica.com X-Submissions-To: nanas-sub@cybernothing.org TOPICA! you said you wouldn't spam me anymore, what the hell is this???? --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Technical Advisory To: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:24:26 -0700 Subject: Your Internet Connection may be Malfunctioning-- Message-ID: <103672.5182.1737452208-1463792126-1035476666@topica.com> Reply-To: perf-remove.5182.103672.17204513.0.0.4@boing.topica.com Received: from mx5.boston.juno.com (mx5.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.126]) by m4.bos.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85SW9MAXZGXT2 for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:23 -0400 (EST) Received: from out007.tfmb.net (out007.tfmb.net [66.180.247.27]) by mx5.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA85SW9GANYBAM2 for (sender ); Thu, 24 Oct 2002 16:11:18 -0400 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Topica-Id: <1035475436.svc001.22563.1000166> Errors-To: Return-Path: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="TEP-1145484051.1463792894.1035475211" Message-ID: <103672.5182.1737452208-1463792126-1035476666@topica.com> --TEP-1145484051.1463792894.1035475211 Content-Type: text/plain Are you suffering from any of the following problems? > Your browser lags > Downloads take too long > Web Pages stall > Pictures appear much slower than text Then your Internet Connection is probably malfunctioning. 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For a copy of the guidelines to this group, see: === And another Topica spam === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net !spamfinder.gnilink.net!nwrddc02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: topica, you asshole From: jason.mangiafico@verizon.net (JM) X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (16bit) References: Lines: 53 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:22:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.203.91.148 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrddc02.gnilink.net 1035616979 151.203.91.148 (Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:22:59 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:22:59 EDT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1845241 Oh, here's another one. From: Rod_Stern To: hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:16:48 -0700 Subject: Leading Franchise Opportunity Message-ID: <105434.5845.1862024645-1463792382-1035602208@topica.com> Reply-To: perf-remove.5845.105434.1813523.0.0.2@boing.topica.com Received: from mx1.nyc.untd.com (mx1.nyc.untd.com [10.140.24.61]) by m4.bos.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85WGJUA7XET6A for (sender ); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:24:51 -0400 (EST) Received: from out003.tfmb.net (out003.tfmb.net [66.180.247.23]) by mx1.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AAA85WGJUA3Y5TNA for (sender ); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:24:50 -0400 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Topica-Id: <1035602111.svc001.11741.1001074> Errors-To: Return-Path: Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: <105434.5845.1862024645-1463792382-1035602208@topica.com> Complete spam posted in NANAS Subject: [email] Leading Franchise Opportunity Message-ID: <20021026.030502.-192237.1.hanson_will_be_destroyed@juno.com> In article , uwiz@cluestick.org says... > > >"JM" wrote in message >news:rI2u9.8751$iV1.7410@nwrddc02.gnilink.net... >> quoting: >> Subject: [email] [Topica] Planning to Sell or Buy a Home Soon? >> Subject: [email] [Topica] Your Internet Connection may be Malfunctioning > >Gah! Terrible stuff. Thanks for reposting the headers here. > >-- >u w i z a t c l u e s t i c k d o t o r g > > > > === Topica listwashes instead of terminating their spammers === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.stanford.edu !postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: jander7@hotmail.com (James W. Anderson) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica response to LART. ('peterz' spam) Date: 4 Nov 2002 09:56:52 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 40 Message-ID: <33c45d34.0211040956.355e1dd5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.158.14.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1036432612 3832 127.0.0.1 (4 Nov 2002 17:56:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Nov 2002 17:56:52 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1850725 I'll only post Topica's response to a LART I fired off to them regarding the spam with the subject line 'peterz'. Butit shows they don't really care--just read between the lines on this one. They say the 'unsubscribe' you then 'take action against the listowner'. Topica--please come clean on this one! Thank you for your inquiry. The email address you provided has been unsubscribed. Please allow several business days for all queued mail to be processed. We apologize for the inconvenience of receiving unwanted email. We are currently investigating this matter and will take appropriate action necessary. Topica will not disclose personal information on our users to anyone, unless required to do so for legal reasons. You will receive additional email if you choose to receive special offers from the Topica web site. We realize that unwanted email is irritating, which is why we are fervently committed to responding as quickly as possible to unsubscription requests. If you receive unwanted email that comes from a list on our website, please contact us immediately at . We will unsubscribe you, and take appropriate action against the list owner, since the generating of unwanted email is a definite violation of Topica's Terms of Service. Please let us know if you have any other questions. Please contact us with any further questions or comments. Regards, Josh Topica Customer Support http://www.topica.com === And another PR from Topica, they STILL do not require confirmed opt-in === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley !nntp-out.svc.us.xo.net!nntp1-feeder.SJ.svc.us.xo.net!newsfeed.concentric.net !sjc1.nntp.concentric.net!nntp-master.svc.us.xo.net From: Josh Barrack Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 Date: 27 Dec 2002 00:21:37 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 44 Message-ID: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.111.131.88 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1887261 Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements - Product Features ---------------- On December 18th, Topica has become a licensee of Habeas, Inc. Habeas is a white-listing service which is working with ISPs and filtering services to ensure delivery of email where a subscriber has used confirmed opt-in. Here is a link to our press release: http://click.topica.com/maaaI9MaaUWlIaaaaaab. Topica can use Habeas because one of our products -- Topica Exchange (66.180.244.0/24)-- uses confirmed opt-in invitations exclusively and because we are encouraging the users of another product -- Topica Email Publisher -- to utilize confirmed opt-in wherever possible. We will be encouraging all customers to use confirmed opt-in, using the promise of better delivery through Habeas as an incentive. Operational Issues ---------------- Please note that Topica experienced a system wide outage on Friday December 20, resulting in problems with our web sites and unsubscription process. This downtime lasted approximately 24 hours, and all relevant systems are functioning once again. Happy Holidays To contact Topica for Abuse, ISP or other issues please use the following contact information: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- General email inquiries - isp-abuse@get.topica.com Bill McCaulley - Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards billm@get.topica.com Josh Barrack - Assoc. Director of ISP Relations joshb@get.topica.com === Replies === Path: uni-berlin.de!cust-62-219-88-66.cust.bezeqint.NET!not-for-mail From: Dolphin Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 Date: 27 Dec 2002 02:32:21 GMT Organization: Private person Lines: 57 Sender: Alexander Sheremet Message-ID: References: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cust-62-219-88-66.cust.bezeqint.net (62.219.88.66) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1040956341 7499991 62.219.88.66 (16 [104765]) X-SPEWS: I am not X-newsgroup: news.admin.net-abuse.email X-PGP-key: 0xAAE2A579 X-PGP-key-fingerprint: 5B8E 3B28 7199 8CD3 4133 FA87 000B 0FB6 AAE2 A579 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1887325 On 27 Dec 2002 00:21:37 GMT Josh Barrack wrote in message <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com>: > Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements - > Topica can use Habeas because one of our products -- Topica Exchange > (66.180.244.0/24)-- > uses confirmed opt-in invitations exclusively Translation: Topica can use Habeas because one of our products -- Topica Exchange (66.180.244.0/24)-- sends their unsolicited invitations only once (this is a one-time mailing, no need to unsubscribe). > and because we are > encouraging the users of another product -- Topica Email Publisher -- > to utilize confirmed opt-in wherever possible. We will be encouraging all > customers to use confirmed opt-in, using the promise of better > delivery through Habeas as an incentive. Translation: and because we still do not demand all the users to use the confirmed opt-in and they are still free to "opt-in" manually whatever e-mail addresses they want into their mailing lists, and then spam to no end through Topica, using the promise of better delivery through Habeas as an incentive. > Operational Issues > ---------------- > > Please note that Topica experienced a system wide outage on Friday > December 20, resulting in problems with our web sites and > unsubscription process. Translation: We have "e-bayed" all our unsubscription data, so we can spam all those poor souls who send unsubscribe requests to spammers once again, till the next sheduled outage. > This downtime lasted approximately 24 hours, <...> ... and will be repeated on Saturday 28 and Monday 30 for those who has missed the oportunity to enjoy it. http://www.DolphinWave.org/spam/topica.com.txt HTH Dolphin. -- URL: http://www.DolphinWave.org Mail: on the web page (no spam) ICQ: 6615461 === Another === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01 !supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!for_usenet From: Chris Pickett Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:28:59 -0800 Organization: Studio42 Message-ID: References: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> <9qio0vk2idp5k9oo55sdestu26jhregcfo@4ax.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) X-No-Archive: yes X-No-Confirm: yes X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 36 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1887589 In article <9qio0vk2idp5k9oo55sdestu26jhregcfo@4ax.com>, Wm James wrote: >On 27 Dec 2002 00:21:37 GMT, Josh Barrack wrote: Exactly. It's one thing for me to have to white list ISP's or specific IPs because my filters are too tight. It's another thing to have to call listwashing "whitelisting". Just wish Topica had the honesty to call it what it is, but instead they will call what it isn't what they want. Rule #3 in full effect, deeply tied to Rules 1 and 2. No hope for them. -- The Deadbeats' Hall of Lame: http://www.studio42.com/kill-the-spam/ Where spammers are exposed for the deadbeats they truly are. California Resident says: We've upped our standards, so now UP YOURS! Don't respond to this address. It's invalid and I own the domain. === And another one === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.freenet.de!not-for-mai Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 From: Frank Breuer References: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Date: 27 Dec 2002 08:05:52 GMT Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.7.161.30 X-Trace: 1040976352 news.freenet.de 3219 213.7.161.30:1034 X-Complaints-To: abuse@freenet.de Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1887441 "Josh Barrack" wrote: > Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements - Why don't you goatfuckers just stop it? You are spammers: > because we are encouraging the users of another product -- Topica In other word's: If they want, they can continue to spam, and we are happy to take their money. > Bill McCaulley - Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards You standards, Sir, are so low that you sent out porn spam to the inbox of my 13yr old. Because of low-lifes like you, I have to invade the privacy of her, and read her inbox to protect her from scum like you. As the senior goatfucking director, do you test drive the goats before you sent out the spam advertising the porn? > Josh Barrack - Assoc. Director of ISP Relations joshb@get.topica.com You are the associated goatfucking director, right? Does that mean you associate as closely as possible to the animal porn you sent to the inbox of my 13yr? If BSE would be a sex transfered desease, you, Sir, would for sure already running around spinning your head and vomiting green slime. === And another === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com !nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED !not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 04:06:44 -0600 From: Inigo.Montoya@The.Princess.Bride (Inigo Montoya) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 03:06:44 -0700 Organization: Lumber Cartel Unit #1404 References: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Trace: sv3-Ep0zwR4FQAIuIAXpeiG5tJgSZEvsACTBB8/WNvFIis5bJRlKmag5OORbuFM8s+IsTNSZWl4+Jr xnOEd!jDIzy1zkKVrHNhbXHMB4SIck66KysWoe2tbpwoIU7rJm6if6PIwvdLezWuU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1888452 Josh Barrack wrote: >Topica can use Habeas because one of our products -- Topica Exchange *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* *beep* That was my bullshit detector going off. Confirmed opt-in is possible 100% of the time, unless you have less than the mental prowess of dirt. -- My name is Inigo Montoya. You spammed my father. Prepare to die. This is WKRP in Cincinnati, with more music and Les Nessman. === Topica lies to their customer === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!nf3.bellglobal.com!news.stealth.net !news.stealth.net!news-east.rr.com!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203 !attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Clarke Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Mail-Copies-To: nobody Subject: [SPEWS] Topica responds to an angry customer Organization: Faultline Magazine User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) X-Face: Y'~Hn+_Bt2i3tmGrsFI=![N$@to)wWDTJaTWh6)\M-sn(R1=^O=Yyaj(Hb%+w h*$[HR.BRVy_AY+PTy5',>MjwJV=6--dZrc:Yoht}Vu96" z?sz!;/6U(Zm'?W'4vq88SJXsdi\~=f=U$ow]c$nKsq12K,0or>@W&19muk7>RDY>.6e a~I0s7VzFEi,h Message-ID: Lines: 88 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.240.7.181 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1041360703 12.240.7.181 (Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:51:43 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:51:43 GMT Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:51:43 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1889958 Thought you folks might appreciate this. I run two small confirmed opt-in lists through Topica Email Publisher, and was unaware of the situation vis-a-vis SPEWS and Topica until my test mails started failing to arrive at my inbox. (Topica certainly didn't notify me that they were having the problem when I signed on.) If anyone wants to suggest ethical email list service providers Faultline might consider as an alternative, my email is unmunged. Thx. > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for the message. > > Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization > which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS > asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less > than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, and > since SPEWS does not identify its members, we are having > difficulty getting our case reviewed. We are confident that our > indirect attempts to contact them will be successful -- hopefully > soon. And we are also comforted by knowing that SPEWS has > inaccurately accused other organizations and has taken corrective > action. > > Topica has become one of the three largest providers of email in > the U.S. We have many different types of customers, and all are > told they can only receive service from us if they follow our > policies which require permission-based email. We have a staff > that monitors abuse and enforces our policy. The success of these > efforts has led to great relationships with the major ISPs, many > of whom "white list" mail from Topica. > > Occasionally customers find loopholes to our practices. But when > we find such customers we immediately discontinue their service. > We are big and have thousands of users, and these violations will > happen again. Like other ISPs, we'll erect barriers but find they > are compromised. We are determined to continue our free service > as well as our paid service, and when we find offenders we'll > take action. Again, the SPEWS filter impacts less than 1% of all > Topica traffic. Nonetheless, all email messages sent on our > service are precious to us, and we are dedicated to getting all > of that mail through. > > Topica users can help. You are the paying customers of ISPs, and if > you find them filtering our service, please direct them to contact > our Director of ISP Relations, at isp-abuse@get.topica.com. If a > customer has violated our policies, ISPs notifying us of the problem > will help us take action. We are a company serving hundreds of > thousands of customers - most without a single complaint - and SPEWS > actions impact a much larger group than intended. > > Thanks for your support and help as we resolve the SPEWS situation. > > Regards, > > Kerry > Topica Self Service Support > http://www.email-publisher.com > > Original Message Follows: > ------------------------- > >> I have found that a number of my confirmed-opt-in subscribers - >> including myself - are not receiving mailings from my two Email >> Publisher lists as a result of Topica's being listed on SPEWS.org's >> spammers list. >> >> I would like to know what steps you are taking to remove yourself >> from this list. I am aware of your recent partnership with Habeas, >> your voluntary confirmed opt-in procedure and the like. However, in >> order to justify remaining with Email Publisher I will need to see >> some evidence that your efforts to remove yourselves from the SPEWS >> list extend beyond PR campaigns and encouraging your customers to >> take voluntary efforts not to send unwanted email. >> >> I am happy with the level of service you provide in other areas and >> would prefer to remain your customer, but I need some assurance >> that you will be able to deliver the email you contracted to >> deliver when Faultline signed up with Email Publisher. I now cannot >> even receive email from my own lists due to your mention on the >> SPEWS list. I'm sure you will agree with me that this is >> unacceptable. >> >> I look forward to your speedy reply. -- Chris Clarke | Editor, Faultline Magazine www.faultline.org | California Environmental News and Information === Lies pointed out === Path: uni-berlin.de!cust-62-219-88-72.cust.bezeqint.NET!not-for-mail From: Dolphin Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: [SPEWS] Topica responds to an angry customer Date: 31 Dec 2002 19:57:36 GMT Organization: Private person Lines: 78 Sender: Alexander Sheremet Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cust-62-219-88-72.cust.bezeqint.net (62.219.88.72) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1041364656 10786881 62.219.88.72 (16 [104765]) X-SPEWS: I am not X-newsgroup: news.admin.net-abuse.email X-PGP-key: 0xAAE2A579 X-PGP-key-fingerprint: 5B8E 3B28 7199 8CD3 4133 FA87 000B 0FB6 AAE2 A579 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1890003 On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:51:43 GMT Chris Clarke wrote in message : > Thought you folks might appreciate this. I run two small confirmed > opt-in lists through Topica Email Publisher, and was unaware of the > situation vis-a-vis SPEWS and Topica until my test mails started failing > to arrive at my inbox. (Topica certainly didn't notify me that they were > having the problem when I signed on.) And they have lied to you in their responce, too: http://www.DolphinWave.org/spam/topica.com.txt Topica's responce to the customer: >> Hi Chris, >> >> Thanks for the message. >> >> Topica is currently being listed by "SPEWS," an organization >> which is recommending that its members filter our email. SPEWS >> asserts that we are allowing spam. This claim is impacting less >> than 1% of our mail flow. However, it is a false assertion, They lie, and they know about it. They were here before, claiming this "false assertion". And were spanked with the proof more than once. They "sing" the same song at least for the last 4 months. Watch another their customer's complaint, and replies: http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=slrnamt9mk.kn6.jmaynard%40thebrain.conmicro.cx >> and >> since SPEWS does not identify its members, we are having >> difficulty getting our case reviewed. We are confident that our >> indirect attempts to contact them will be successful -- hopefully >> soon. And we are also comforted by knowing that SPEWS has >> inaccurately accused other organizations and has taken corrective >> action. Yeah, right. SPEWS took less than 24 hours to fix really incorrect listings. Four months have passed, and Topica is still comforted with a thought that SPEWS will delist them as a "mistake"?! >> Topica has become one of the three largest providers of email in >> the U.S. We have many different types of customers, and all are >> told they can only receive service from us if they follow our >> policies which require permission-based email. Lie. And they just recently have told that they still do NOT require confirmed opt-in for all their users. Watch Topica's last PR, and replies: http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com >> We have a staff that monitors abuse and enforces our policy. Lie, look below ("Occasionally..."). >> The success of these >> efforts has led to great relationships with the major ISPs, many >> of whom "white list" mail from Topica. So, why they have these delivery problems, at the first place? Lie, eh? >> Occasionally customers find loopholes to our practices. But when >> we find such customers we immediately discontinue their service. Lie. They do NOT terminate their spammers, but instead trying to "listwash" the complainers. Watch the proof example (search for the "Topica listwashes" string): http://www.DolphinWave.org/spam/topica.com.txt Enough of proof, I think. Dolphin. -- URL: http://www.DolphinWave.org Mail: on the web page (no spam) ICQ: 6615461 === And here is what relations with Topica bring to Habeas === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de !npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeeder2.randori.com!news2.randori.com.POSTED !not-for-mail From: "Brian Fistler" Subject: Re: Topica Abuse and ISP Relations Announcements -12/26/02 User-Agent: Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain) Message-ID: Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email References: <927n0v8n5u5c8lmfh4ou2qgr9e09uam4kg@4ax.com> <8c57314e.0301260728.678e62c@posting.google.com> Reply-To: nanae1@kimnbrian.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 24 X-Complaints-To: abuse@randori.com - Please include "all" headers, thanks. Organization: Newsgroup NNTPServers.com Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:39:07 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1908033 On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 07:28:59 -0800, Roasted Billy-Goates never reads email sent to him. Post to the group. wrote: > chester wrote in message > news:... > >> It didn't stop this spam: >> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=160.16f3509c.2b02c9d5%40aol.com&output= >> gplain >> >> http://makeashorterlink.com/?S47D233E2 > > True, and 216.139.169.19 (the sending IP) isn't even in the HIL (their > DNSBL). I wonder if GaryG4430 at aol.com emailed reports at habeas.com I've gotten habeas "signed" spam from topica on 3 occasions now from "groups" I never signed up for. It came to an email address that I used exclusevly to sign up for a couple of OTHER groups on topica. On the 2nd lart I got messages from the other 2 groups that I had been unsubscribed... Go figure... :) Brian === And Topica is still listwashing === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uucp.muenster.de!dnewsfeed02.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net !dnewsifeed00.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsifeed03.bru.ops.eu.uu.net !lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail Reply-To: "uce2002" From: "uce2002" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica still listwashing Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:20:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <3e5a4654$0$363$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62-241-185-164.dsl.pipex.com X-Trace: 1046103637 news.dial.pipex.com 363 62.241.185.164 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1927790 Thank you for your inquiry. Thank you for notifying the Topica abuse team. On behalf of HelpfulInternet, we have unsubscribed the email address provided. Please allow 3 to 5 business days for all queued mail to be delivered. If you require information on how your address was obtained, please contact the advertiser directly by visiting their website at: http://www.helpfulinternet.com/ We share your concern that you've received unwanted email through one of Topica's services and appreciate the opportunity to investigate its source. We have logged this advisement of unsolicited commercial email and are investigating the situation. We are currently reviewing the practices of the Topica customer that originated this email for compliance with our anti-spam polices and acceptable use guidelines. Whether we are serving small or large clients, Topica has a strict permission email policy and each of our publishers represents to us that the addresses on their mailing lists have given permission to receive email from them. We take abuse of our permission email policy seriously and respond as necessary to preserve our standing as a responsible email provider. We apologize for the inconvenience of receiving unwanted email. The email address you provided has been unsubscribed. Please allow several business days for all queued mail to be processed. We are currently investigating this matter and will take appropriate action as necessary. We realize that unwanted email is irritating, which is why we are fervently committed to responding as quickly as possible to unsubscription requests. If you receive unwanted email that comes from a list on our website, please contact us immediately at: abuse@topica.com We will unsubscribe you, and take appropriate action against the list owner, since the generating of unwanted email is a definite violation of our Terms of Service. Please contact us with any further questions or comments. Sincerely, Finn Gjerdrum Manager Customer Support Team Topica, Inc. http://www.topica.com === Here how some people are dealing with Topica's spam === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: rule3@LinxNet.com (Jim Seymour) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Topica still listwashing Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:59:45 -0000 Organization: tino Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: jseymour@LinxNet.com X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 References: <3e5a4654$0$363$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 32 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1927813 In article <3e5a4654$0$363$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>, "uce2002" writes: [snip] The solution to that is obvious: /etc/postfix/client_checks: /etc/postfix/sender_checks: topica.com 554 Spam not tolerated here topica.net 554 Spam not tolerated here tcpa.net 554 Spam not tolerated here tep1.com 554 Spam not tolerated here tepmail.com 554 Spam not tolerated here tfmb.net 554 Spam not tolerated here email-publisher.com 554 Spam not tolerated here list-email.net 554 Spam not tolerated here /etc/postfix/header_checks: /^(From|Received|Return-Path|Message-ID):\s+.*[\.\@](topica|tep1|tepmail|email-publisher)\.com/ REJECT /^(From|Received|Return-Path|Message-ID):\s+.*[\.\@](topica|tcpa|tfmb|list-email)\.net/ REJECT (Apologies for the long lines.) Have I missed anything? Regards, Jim -- Jim Seymour | "Some of the lies are so strange it WARNING: The "From:" address is a | makes you wonder about the spammer's spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | sanity." jseymour@LinxNet.com | - Ed Foster, "The Gripe Line" 6/24/02 === And Topica still spams the addresses that never signed up, too === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com !newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-west.rr.com !cyclone.kc.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com !twister.socal.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "RipCurl" From: "RipCurl" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email References: <3e5a4654$0$363$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: Topica still listwashing Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:17:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.210.125.4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.socal.rr.com 1046171847 204.210.125.4 (Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:17:27 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:17:27 PST Organization: RoadRunner - West Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1928416 > Appropriate action = tell them to take you off the lists yet leave the > customer connected to spam others and allow Topica to listwash for > them. > > Topica is really a listwashing service disguised as a mailing service. Yup. I just got one of their "thank you for joining topica" crap on an email address that I only used to communicate with a buyer who bought some motorcycle parts from me locally. I've never done business with that email address for anyone. So i fired off a lart to them and removed anything before the @ symbol in my address and told them to shove it. They will continue to get complaints until they REMOVE all email addresses that ended in my ISP's domain name since I never signed up with them. They want to listwash, well, they have to work to find out what address to listwash. There are now just over 300,000 users with @ hawaii . rr . com ; let them figure out which one of out of the 300,000 that maybe in their system to listwash. I aint doing their work. If i get signed up for their crap system, they will have to work their little buns off to figure it out. === And Topics STILL tries to spam non-existent e-mail addresses === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com !newsp.newsguy.com!not-for-mail From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: What exactly is wrong with Topica? Date: 6 Mar 2003 21:48:35 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 24 Sender: Phil Howard Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-937.newsdawg.com User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.18 (i686)) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1934094 Topica is still sending email to non-existing users. If they wanted to really listwash right, they could at least do so from bounces. They have certainly coded things up to be able to. Addresses are munged to force them to actually finish implementing their system to clean up bounced addresses. My last 10 log entries show four different addresses being mailed to. These not only do not exist, they never have existed, and so therefore they could never have been confirmed. It's unsolicited. It's bulk. It's spam. It's blocked! root@hamal:/root 648> scan-logs-reject | ipgrep 66.180.244.0/22 | tail Feb 22 17:26:05 hamal postfix/smtpd[22821]: reject: RCPT from out023.list-email.net[66.180.247.73]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.73] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 22 19:18:05 hamal postfix/smtpd[23211]: reject: RCPT from out003.list-email.net[66.180.247.53]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.53] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 23 06:56:43 hamal postfix/smtpd[26189]: reject: RCPT from out035.list-email.net[66.180.247.85]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.85] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 23 12:26:47 hamal postfix/smtpd[27919]: reject: RCPT from out006.list-email.net[66.180.247.56]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.56] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 24 15:11:22 hamal postfix/smtpd[9581]: reject: RCPT from out001.tepmail.com[66.180.246.21]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.246.21] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 24 15:27:02 hamal postfix/smtpd[9613]: reject: RCPT from out017.list-email.net[66.180.247.67]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.67] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 25 00:47:46 hamal postfix/smtpd[11590]: reject: RCPT from out007.list-email.net[66.180.247.57]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.57] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 25 04:24:40 hamal postfix/smtpd[12786]: reject: RCPT from out035.list-email.net[66.180.247.85]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.85] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Feb 26 07:31:41 hamal postfix/smtpd[18589]: reject: RCPT from out033.list-email.net[66.180.247.83]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.83] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= Mar 4 19:54:17 hamal postfix/smtpd[31938]: reject: RCPT from out033.list-email.net[66.180.247.83]: 554 Service unavailable; [66.180.247.83] blocked using relays.osirusoft.com, reason: [1] topica, see http://spews.org/ask.cgi?S1522; from= to= root@hamal:/root 649> scan-logs-reject | ipgrep 66.180.244.0/22 | wc -l 227 root@hamal:/root 650> === Topica still allows the unconfirmed lists subscription (mailbombing) === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01 !sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Tom Betz Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: That'll teach me... [Topica, Habeas] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:26:27 -0000 Organization: Anything Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/05.08.12 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 27 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1939208 My primary e-mail accounts are on different systems than my connectivity account, and for a long time I've left the e-mail address associated with my connectivity account relatively unguarded, as the address just wasn't out there to be spammed. Then late last year, when my primary news server was unavailable, I made one NANAE post from the shell on my connectivity account, and forgot to configure trn to use my main e-mail address. My connectivity address is on one NANAE post from last year. Just this week, my connectivity address was forge-subscribed to 35 Topica mailing lists (several of them Habeas-warranted!) and a bunch of others. Apparently there is a HUGE security hole in Topica's double-secret-opt-in subscription code that is allowing some scumbag to use it, too, to attack me. So, today I have copied over several of my procmail recipes from my primary shell provider to my connectivity provider's machine, and am now running them (and will be updating them) in tandem. Of course, I've procmailed out Topica's IP space, so I won't see any more crap from that hole. Anyone else see a big increase in connection attempts form Topica this week? === Followup === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!freenix !deine.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling !news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!sn-xit-02 !sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Tom Betz Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: That'll teach me... [Topica, Habeas] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:39:53 -0000 Organization: Some Message-ID: References: <3E711568.2405@cluestick.org> User-Agent: Xnews/06.02.16 X-Face: #^=oh~^r5AV^#I3^*+(VAGoCzyvK%%w\/HM"[t&a)rHXo#NR3Z\,"/?_htmx~~gG.>v~+.I|P%it\y FS~TxS($@5b8?Rn]z3N]~!6XL9A&2T}I,]-T/8wH~ Ye X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 12 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1939291 Quoth Bob O`Bob in news:3E711568.2405@cluestick.org: > Were any of these just confirmation requests, > or did they actually contain list content? They were post-confirmation list content. -- | Tom Betz, Generalist | |Want to send me email? FIRST, READ THIS PAGE:| || |YO! MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS HEAVILY SPAM-ARMORED!| === Here is on of Habeas-enabled spams from Topica === === http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20030313020651.A06C02AA07%40earl-grey.cloud9.net === From: Tom Betz Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings Subject: [email] 03-12-03 EUR: Mary J. & P. Diddy Back Together / The Boss Busted ... 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Diddy Back Together / The Boss Busted ... Aga Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:43:25 +0000 Message-ID: <1226280137-1463792382-1047469495@topica.com> Errors-To: Reply-To: info@eurweb.com X-Topica-Id: <1047469405.web001.22362.1000000> List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to ;. X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.7; VAE: 6.18.0.2; VDF: 6.18.0.13; host: russian-caravan.cloud9.net) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,NO_FEE,RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM,TONER version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4655 Lee Bailey's EUR/Electronic Urban Report March 12, 2003 (Wednesday) The EUR is factual online infotainment on today's hottest celebrities, events and issues in urban/black entertainment and culture. For your FREE subscription, send e-mail to: EURmail-subscribe@topica.com To Unsubscribe, follow the instructions at the END of this report and you will be taken off this list immediately. If your EUR comes LATE or not at all, just send an e-mail To our autoresponder ( lateeur@eurweb.com ) and it will come right back. Or, visit our Web site (www.EURweb.com ). We're back with the very exciting Hollywood Black Film Festival Trivia Game! Read on to find out today's question. You could be the winner of a special invitation for two to the award luncheon. *********************************************************** In This Issue: * KNOWLES KNOWS FORD * STAGGA LEE STAGGERS INTO THE GAME * MARY J. AND P. DIDDY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN * THE SUMMIT ISSUES OPEN LETTER TO KING GEORGE * DMX AIN'T NO LIAR, BUT DO YOU BELIEVE HE'LL RETIRE? ********************************************************** STAGGA LEE STAGGERS INTO THE GAME Lee looms large on the radar. *The Source magazine has spoken out against the co-opting of rap music by white folks. Well, from Artist Direct comes yet another great white to get the crowd hype. Named after a legendary black folk character, this Yonkers, NY native just wants a fair shot to shine. "I got the name from a Lloyd Price song that came out in 1959 about a bad ass dude name Stagga Lee I took the name. I come from Yonkers, NY. I was born in the Bronx and raised in Yonkers my whole life." Between the Bronx and Yonkers, Lee acquired a taste for all types of music and his love for oldies helped him find his future moniker. "I was exposed to a diverse range music since I was young. I was in an oldies stage during my teen years. I happened to be in my car one day with my uncle and (was) handed a tape of Oldies type stuff. And I got all amped off of it. It's the characteristic of Stagga Lee. In the song, Stagga Lee's associate Billy jerks him out of some money. He lets it slide and goes home, but then he comes back and shoots him in a bar. I'm not a killer or nothing like that, so I didn't mean it in that aspect, but it's the essence of him going home and thinking 'No, I can't let this slide' and going back to do something about it. It's very similar to how my personality was. Plus I'm bowlegged so when people heard my name was Stagga they said 'All right, it fits the way you walk.' Contrary to what some may want to believe, Eric Hillman, AKA: Stagga Lee, has been honning his skills for over a decade and tabs BIG, Rakim and Kool G. Rap as his major influences. "I've been rhyming for about ten years. I signed with Artist Direct in November of 2002. This is my first deal and the lead single is called 'Roll Wit' MVP.' MVP is the production comapany that did all the tracks for my album. Learn MORE about Stagga Lee at EURweb.com: http://eurweb.com/articles/musicpages/03122003/musicpages913603122003.cfm ABSOLUT SOULFUL SUNDAY Radio is live every Sunday in Chicago WCFJ AM1470 1:30pm-4:30pm, New York on WSNR AM 620 from 9pm-12AM and starting March 16th, Los Angeles joins on KRLA 590AM 6pm-9pm. You can log on anytime and listen online at www.clubbintv.com. Hosted by DJ FINK and Shelly Shel, it is "MUSIC FOR YOUR SOUL." THE 2003 ESSENCE AWARDS ARE COMING! Vote and Win! Cast your vote for the person you think should recieve "The Essence Entertainer of the Year Award" and you and a guest could win a night with the stars at the 2003 Essence Awards in Hollywood California. Click:http://www.essence.com/essence/awards/home_2003.htm EUR gives you something to really talk about. EUR Newsbits DMX SAYS HE'S RETIRING, BUT DO YOU BELIEVE HIM? Rapper/actor says he dead serious, but really now *We have heard this one before, but DMX swears he's dead serious about quitting the game after his next album. "That's the truth. It's my last album," X told MTV, referring to his upcoming fifth record, It's Not a Game. X said he will continue to act and to make sure acts on Bloodline Records remain tight, but none of that will be a top concern. "I wanna take some time off, you know, read my Bible and just get more into the word." Family will also take precedence. "I got kids, and one of my children is at that stage where you have to be around. He's 8 months, and I don't wanna be a stranger to my children. That's more important to me than all this." DMX joins a long list of rappers who are promising to retire, including Dr. Dre, Ja Rule and Master P. MARY J. AND P. DIDDY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN ... In the studio, that is. Let's not get it twisted *Well look who hooked up again, and if the stars are aligned properly, history will repeat itself. Yep, Puffy and Mary J. Blige are currently in the studio with Diddy executive producing her new project. It's the first time they've worked together since My Life. Yes, we know you just can't wait to find out when will this reunion will bear fruit and what's it gonna be called. The title is Love And Life and will be out this summer. We're told that Mary is also doing a couple of tracks with Dr. Dre, too. (Smart move, Mary.) Check this out, just for fun, Mary redid "In Tha Club," but her version is called "Hooked" and P. Diddy raps on it. But, it won't be on Love And Life, though; it's for promotional purposes only. ATLANTA, GEORGIA - UrbanMixers Presents... "The Social Lounge" Exclusive Premier Calling all Professionals... Come out and Join UrbanMixers, the newest in Upscale Socializing, Wednesday March 12, 2003 at Shadows in Buckhead as we take "AfterWork" to another level. Experience the social effects of UrbanMixers. For more information log on to www.urbanmixers.com - A Shock Theory Interactive Project. DO YOU LOVE BLACK THEATER? If you love nonstop action packed excellent theatre Attend the National Black Theatre Festival, 8/4 - 8/9 Winston Salem, NC. Marvtastic celebrities, plays and parties! 8/9 POLL SAYS LISTENERS ARE NOT INFLUENCED BY GRAMMYS Norah Jones' sales jump not withstanding. *Unless you have some type of memory disorder, we're sure you remember jazzy popster Norah Jones wracking up mad Grammys, right? Well, her Blue Note/Capitol released set "Come Away With Me" showed a 331% jumped in sales the very next week. Despite all that, according to a Billboard.com poll, the Grammy Awards don't have any effect on the music purchases made by consumers. Out of 5,394 voters, 68% said that the event has no bearing on their choices, even though U.S. retail music sales took a 4.7% leap in the week following the Grammys, according to Nielsen SoundScan. In the largest group, 49% said that they were confident of their tastes and it was doubtful the Feb. 23 show would have any influence on upcoming purchases. Another 19% percent contend they do not pay much attention to awards shows of any kind. On the other hand, 19% admitted that a particularly good live performance by an artist during the show might sway them when considering a music purchase. THE SUMMIT ISSUES OPEN LETTER TO KING GEORGE Hip-Hop Action Summit can't stomach war in Iraq. *The Hip-Hop Action Summit is constantly excersising its consistenly swelling political muscle. Recently the group issued an open letter to the President George W. Bush urging him to reconsider his decision to go to war with Iraq, even though it seems he has already made up his mind to do so. The letter starts out: "As you approach your final decision on a war to disarm Iraq, we are writing urgently to recommend that you use your good office and stature as a world leader to win disarmament of Iraq without going to war. Thus far, without a full-scale war, you have been successful in marshalling the United Nations and the world community to affirm the importance of disarming Saddam Hussein of all weapons of mass destruction." "Domestically, Mr. President, rampant poverty is on the rise and the hopes and aspirations of millions of youth are being triaged on the altar of national neglect. We in the hip-hop community know and feel the pain, misery and wretchedness of the social condition of our communities. Now with the prospect of a multi-trillion dollar federal budget deficit, an unnecessary war on Iraq is only going to increase the cold damp hands of social dereliction that have a deadly choke hold on too many Americans across the nation." EARTHLINK, SPRINT AND ROYAL CARIBBEAN LEAD MOBE Earthlink leads sponsorship for MOBE conference, April 4-9 in Miami. Marketers turn Business and Technology Case Studies into Profit.Share Opportunity; Build Relationships; Accelerate! Register at http://www.mobe.com/gb/registernow.html. More on Earthlink at http://www.earthlink.net/ Co-Host With A Star! Do You Have What It Takes To Make It In "Show Biz?" Opportunity to Co-Host a Nationally Televised Award Show. LA Auditions Held At The National Multicultural Business Conference Los Angeles Marriott, Downtown 333 South Figueroa Street Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:00 AM ? 1:00 PM Attire Requirement Business Casual Must Call To Register! Call (323) 933-0945 KWELI TO HOST BENEFIT FOR DECEASED CLUBBERS Chicago event to feature local DJs and rappers as well. *Rapper Talib Kweli is doing his part to garner support for the families of those who perished during the nightclub stampede in Chicago which killed 21 people last month. On Friday night he will host a benefit at the Biology Bar to raise money for those who lost a loved one in the E2 nightclub on February 17. Local radio personality Mike Love will DJ. CECE AND STEVEN TO HOST DOVE AWARDS Gospel love fest to take place in April. *CeCe Winans and Steven Curtis Chapman will host the 34th annual Dove Awards April 10 at the Gaylord Entertainment Center in Nashville. "These two artists represent the best in Christian music, for both their commercial success and their artistic integrity," John W. Styll, president of the Gospel Music Association, said Monday. The GMA says it will partner with StarOne Networks to produce a live pay-per-view Webcast. PAX TV will broadcast the show on April 19. It also will be shown on the Trinity Broadcasting Network April 25 and April 26. The Gospel Music Association is a trade organization formed in 1964 to promote Christian music. Its 5,000 members nominate and vote for the Dove Award winners. DO YOU JANGLEFISH? http://janglefish.biz/index.asp?link=eurweb EUR's Subscription Drive is On! And You Can Help We need to grow and you can help. It's easy. All you have to do is recommend the EUR to at least 5 people (friends or relatives). Just tell them to send an email to: EURmail-subscribe@topica.com and we'll do the rest. Thanks from your family at EUR/EURweb.com tfn Film Life's' 7th Annual American Black Film Festival South Beach, June 18-22 Presented by AOL Time Warner Five days of Independent Film Premieres, Actors and Writers Workshops, Panels, Networking, Parties and the Film Life Black Movie Awards. Register now at: www.abff.com - Early Bird Discount through Feb. 28! 6/22 KNOWLES KNOWS FORD Singer to be featured at Ford's centennial birthday bash. *Beyonce Knowles is one of many musicians who will be on hand to help the Ford Motor Company celebrate its 100th birthday at the Road Is Ours 100th Anniversary Celebration concert series on June 14. Her performance is one of several events the company will host between June 12 and 16 on the grounds of the Henry Ford II World Center, which surrounds Ford's World Headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan. Knowles will perform material from her upcoming Music World Music/Columbia Records debut solo album, Dangerously In Love, which is due out in May. She will be joined at the show by her Destiny's Child groupmates Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams --the trio will also perform together as Destiny's Child as part of the program. Other performers will include Beyonce's sister Solange Knowles, Detroit based gospel group Ramiyah, and Swedish girl band Play, among others. THE BAY AREA BLACK COMEDY COMPETITION SEMIFINALS RESULTS: SIX FINALISTS HEAD OFF TO THE FINALS ON MARCH 15: Joe Blount - Detroit, MI Simply Chanel - Compton, CA Derrick Ellis - Houston, TX Dennis Gaxiola - Oakland, CA Rodman - Atlanta, GA Tony Tone - Memphis, TN DON'T MISS THE FINALS - HOSTED BY DON "DC" CURRY @ Paramount Theatre, Oakland, CA. PreShow VIP Reception, Celebrity Judges, and more! Tickets on sale now at: www.paramounttheatre.com For sponsorship & VIP info: laniece@lajonesmedia.com ITTY BITTY BITS The Boss busted, 50 Cents' new breed, Franklin claims more awards and a tempting offer. **Normally it wouldn't be a big deal, but since its Diana Ross it is. She was stopped Sunday afternoon when a police officer in Greenwich, CT noticed the registration sticker on the black Ford Taurus' license plate had expired. Ross, who has a home in Greenwich, said she rarely drives the car because it's owned by her Los Angeles booking agency. The infraction carries a $78 fine. **Here's a 50 Cent update. The Shady/Aftermath Records artist is about to release a DVD with live footage, video clips, new music and interviews. The project is titled "The New Breed" and will out on April 15. **Brotherman Kirk Franklin did good for himself at last weekend's NAACP Image Awards taping. Franklin won for outstanding album - "The Rebirth Of Kirk Franklin," outstanding song - "Brighter Day" and outstanding gospel artist. The Image Awards show will air tomorrow, March 13 on FOX at 8pm E/P. **Temptation Island 3 is looking for outgoing, unmarried couples (dating at least 6 months) aged 21-35 with no children who would like to audition to be on the island adventure. 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For a copy of the guidelines to this group, see: === Habeas' position on what's happened === Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu !kithrup.com!news From: shedevil@stop.mail-abuse.org (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.) Subject: Habeas Statement Re: That'll teach me... [Topica, Habeas] User-Agent: Xnews/03.08.28 Sender: news@kithrup.com (News Subsystem) Organization: Guarantee to others that your email is not spam. http://www.habeas.com Message-ID: <933E65D1Bshedevilstopmailabus@205.179.156.40> References: <3E711C2D.2729@cluestick.org> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: adsl-64-165-36-235.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:22:08 GMT Lines: 96 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1939746 This is the first, and only, official statement from Habeas on this matter. If you would like further clarification, or have questions or comments, please write to me directly. Please note that I am giving as much information as I can, but there may be names and such which I cannot share. However, based on what Mr. Betz already shared, I can offer enough to give you a good sense of the situation. Last weekend we received complaints from a few different individuals, including Mr. Betz, forwarding email which was from one of several of Topica's "Topica Exchange" mailing lists. This was notable because to date the only complaints we have had regarding any of the Habeas-warranted Topica mailing lists were complaints of "content which was not on topic, and therefore I consider it spam", and a couple of complaints where people said that they had not signed up, but in fact Topica was able to produce the confirmation information. The first several complaints we received were through a spam reporting service which removes the complainant's identifying information, so it's useful to note that we really couldn't do much investigation until we got matching complaints through our own reporting system, with the recipient's information intact. (It's one thing if a list isn't confirmed opt-in, etc., because then it is clear that the problem is with the list itself, but in a case where a list is or is supposed to be confirmed, without knowing who is claiming that they weren't really confirmed, there is no useful way to investigate, or for us to demand proof of confirmation.) Hence we couldn't really drill down into what was going on when we got the first complaints - so there was small lag. Once we started seeing who the complainants were, we immediately noted that without exception, each person complaining was someone from the anti-spam community, or whose email address otherwise appeared in NANAS within the past several months. We then noted the lists complained of, and tried signing up for them ourselves on the Topica website. They required confirmation, as they are supposed to. We took this information to Topica, and together we pored over all list subscriptions for each of the targetted individuals. (I believe that Mr. Betz may have received such a list for his "subscriptions"). We quickly noted that for each targetted individual, there was a mass attempt to subscribe to many many lists, all occuring on the same date, at roughly the same time. The connecting IP address most often used turned out to be one belonging to safeproxy.org We noted that some of the lists actually did allow the subscription without the confirmation going out, and others had not, and were holding the subscription as "pending", as it should do. Puzzling over the fact that we knew that these particular lists were confirmed opt-in, and we'd tested them ourselves, and noting that the timestamp on these numerous subscriptions and subscription attempts were very very close, we realized that it would have been nearly impossible to enter so many subscription requests through a web interface, and we suddenly realized that someone must have mass *mail* subscribed the addresses. We quickly tested this, and sure enough, while the confirmation process worked as it was supposed to when someone signed up through the website, if one instead sent a subscription request to the subscription request email address, some of the lists did not operate as intended (by sending out a confirmation request) but instead simply subscribed the address to the list. Topica *immediately* fixed the bug on all compromised lists, and then searched their whole confirmed opt-in mailing list base for any other lists having this bug. They closed those too (yes, we tested them). So, to the question of the day: Did spam come from Topica's confirmed opt- in list block, bearing our headers? Yes. Was it intentional on the part of Topica, or even a known issue? No. Did Topica fix it immediately as soon as they found out about it? Yes. They were _extremely_ cooperative. I think that Mr. Betz will bear me out there. They did not give us the runaround, they did not brush us off, and they did not try to listwash. They fixed the problem. So, the answer is no, we aren't going to sue them. This is no different than if any of you were Habeas licensees (and many of you are), and your server was hacked into and used for a spam run. Would we immediately pull your license and sue you? Not if you fixed the problem as soon as we brought it to your attention. And most especially not if it was an isolated incident. One of our goals is to push the adoption of confirmed opt-in. Another is to ensure that those who say they use confirmed opt-in actually do. In this instance, there was a problem with a confirmation system, and we demanded that it be fixed, and it was. To sue someone under these circumstances would make no sense, and would have no impact on the greater plan, which includes encouraging non-confirmed houses to move to confirmed opt-in. All it would do would be to tell them "even if we do move to confirmed opt-in, if there is a glitch, or we are subject to an attack, we'll get sued." Make no mistake - even if a problem is unintended, or the result of a 3rd party attack - if it is not taken seriously, and not fixed in a timely manner, we *will* take action, including revoking a license, and suing. We watch all of our licensees very closely. But we're not going to apply a different standard to Topica just because they are Topica. Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO Habeas, Inc. === Topica is still spamming, WHOIS database addresses now === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed !worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED !not-for-mail Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica still spamming From: Morely Dotes Organization: Lumber Cartel (TacOps Division) Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Hamster/1.3.23.4 Hamster/1.3.23.4 X-From: listme@listme.dsbl.org Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.225.54.15 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1048262445 12.225.54.15 (Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:00:45 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:00:45 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:00:45 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1945300 This from my logs: Connection from 207.211.22.22, Fri Mar 21 07:20:29 2003 EHLO park01.gkg.net MAIL FROM: Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica, mortgage spamming. Message-ID: <4pqv7vo8sbh9o99qspuj944vakqpgvtjev@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.198.129.54 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com 1048571329 ST000 63.198.129.54 (Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:48:49 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:48:49 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: [[OURZKGVZU]R\LZNCOF_W\@PJ_^PBQLGPQRJVMHQAVTUZ]CLNTCPFK[WDXDHV[K^FCGJCJLPF_D_N CC@FUG^Q\DINVAXSLIFXYJSSCCALP@PB@\OS@BITWAH\CQZKJMMD^SJA^NXA\GVLSRBD^M_NW_F[YLV TWIGAXAQBOATKBBQRXECDFDMQ\DZFUE@\JM Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 05:48:49 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1947403 I thought topica hosted mail lists for people. Free mailing lists. I know there had been nanae discussions some time ago about their activities. But I hadn't traced anything to them that I had received myself. This is quite amazing. Mortgage spamming. Topica is the hosting http://c.AmazingOffersDirect2uu.com/maaaWNZaaWSqkaanQIKe/ Spamming from 03/24/03 21:41:54 dns 66.180.247.74 nslookup 66.180.247.74 Canonical name: out024.list-email.net Addresses: 66.180.247.74 Topica again. X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP Received: from out024.list-email.net ([66.180.247.74]) by mc8-f15.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:10:37 -0800 To: xxxxxx@hotmail.com From: end your search Subject: Your Free Mortgage Search Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:05:18 -0800 Message-ID: <3484 118@topica.com> Errors-To: Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="50923986.1463793406.1048564818" Return-Path: perf-errors.9 0.4@b.m1111.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2003 04:10:38.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DD57060:01C2F284] --50923986.1463793406.1048564818 Content-Type: text/plain Free Mortgage Search all Credit Types Welcome! Getting a Home Loan is as easy as ... 1. Choose a loan product. 2. Fill out our short form. 3. Quickly get matched with lenders. Click here: http://c.AmazingOffersDirect2uu.com/maaaWNZaaWSqkaanQIKe/ === And Topica's license to use the Habeas' "not a spam" mark" is revoked === Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu !kithrup.com!news From: shedevil@stop.mail-abuse.org (Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.) Subject: Re: New Habeas trick to try to deflect LARTs and look who's in bed with them now! User-Agent: Xnews/03.08.28 Sender: news@kithrup.com (News Subsystem) Organization: Guarantee to others that your email is not spam. http://www.habeas.com Message-ID: <9350B543Bshedevilstopmailabus@205.179.156.40> References: <33c45d34.0303281631.3191e818@posting.google.com> <2g5a8vguer7l95l9ce6fomblv4lsf8186e@4ax.com> <530e8vkcbdgjdh9uia67scab0hdd0erqr3@4ax.com> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: adsl-64-165-36-235.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:37:03 GMT Lines: 78 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1952446 As of Monday, 3/31/03, Habeas and Topica have agreed to discontinue Topica's use of the Habeas headers. Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO Habeas, Inc. >Patricia A. Shaffer wrote: >>Here's one just in among the joe-job flames; topica hosts the >>unsubscribe address, and Habeas lies ... 10 inches of fresh snow this >>morning: >> >>>To: vitalstocks@topica.com >>>From: "Newsletter@vitalstocks.com" >>>Subject: VitalStocks.com Investing Digest, Mar. 30, 2003, Vol. 2, Iss. >>>7 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:45:11 +0000 >>>Message-ID: <615995649-1463747838-1049060716@boing.topica.com> >>>Errors-To: >>>>>> Reply-To: webmaster@vitalstocks.com >>>X-Topica-Id: <1049060711.web001.24260.1000000> >>>List-Help: >>>List-Unsubscribe: >>>X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring >>>X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated >>>X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) >>>X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) >>>X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this >>>X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas >>>X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant >>>X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this >>>X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to ;. >>>X-pstn-levels: (C:99.7951 M:71.7098 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S: 5.7304 >>>) X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) pMcr >>>X-pstn-addresses: from >>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>Status: U >>>X-UIDL: 346499451 >>> >>>VitalStocks.com Professional Investing Newsletter Digest >>>www.vitalstocks.com > >But, Patricia. Your address was clearly found in the "from" field of a >joe job email that found its way to the vitalstocks.com subscribe >address. Are you suggesting that Habeas is responsible for making sure >that all HCMs are sent only to CONFIRMED opt-in addresses? :-) > >Bet you get listwashed. That's infinitely easier than running a full >investigation of the vector that got your address into Topica's hot >little hands. And a lawsuit for Topica breaking their Habeas license? >Not gonna happen. Lawsuits and cluck-clucking are for non-customers. >Customers get the kid gloves treatment. Yeah - listwashing. The time for >effective corrective action (i.e.: proper list management techniques) >was 1998, not 2003. > >Habeas - shame on your choice of customers. > >-- >Bill "the Roadie" Carton >http://www.theclubbuiltonspam.com/ > -- --- Never assume malice in that which can be explained by ineptitude. I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam http://www.annepmitchell.com === And Topica now openly asks spammed people to go and unsubscibe from their === === spammer's lists, cause they have difficulties to listwash for them all === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.news2me.com !border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com !news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 15:17:47 -0600 From: Patricia A. Shaffer Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: New Habeas trick to try to deflect LARTs and look who's in bed with them now! Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 16:19:43 -0500 Organization: Only When Motivated Reply-To: ramsa@swva.net References: <33c45d34.0303281631.3191e818@posting.google.com> <9350B543Bshedevilstopmailabus@205.179.156.40> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 105 X-Trace: sv3-fJIImZa2PVO1BmmCX8pbwgu0DAvN+GIaxmcVref9HvDGjGuvdzWJwZ1r373+y9NklQMCbZeWQS TRW6t!QDv1qLi19uGiTO7hlzL88TYYcqwHEau9Ird8QPFWZee3gnuJHnbtSOZWRg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1952996 On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 19:54:01 +0000 (UTC), c.c.ckn@69.usenet.us.com (Errol) wrote: >In article , >Tom Betz wrote: >>Quoth jmaynard@thebrain.conmicro.cx (Jay Maynard) in >>news:slrnb8kk60.rb8.jmaynard@thebrain.conmicro.cx: >> >>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:37:03 GMT, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. >>> wrote: >>>>As of Monday, 3/31/03, Habeas and Topica have agreed to discontinue >>>>Topica's use of the Habeas headers. >>> >>> Uhm, Anne...given the date, a repeat posting tomorrow, or an >>> announcement on the Habeas web site, would seem to be appropriate. >> >>Yeah, some updating of would >>seem to be in order. >> >>"'Topica is proud to be the first major email services provider to extend the >>Habeas license to our customers,' said Anna Zornosa, CEO of Topica. 'We >>believe that confirmed opt-in is the gold standard of permission-based email. >>We think that Habeas is doing important work by making sure that mail of this >>type is delivered.' > >Note what they *didn't* say: "... making sure that no bulk email *not* >of this type is delivered using our service". I don't see anything >resembling that anywhere. > >>"'Habeas supports email publishing providers such as Topica who offer best >>practices services such as confirmed opt-in for their customers,' said Anne >>P. Mitchell, Esq., CEO of Habeas. 'Email for which a host has confirmed opt- >>in subscriptions should be delivered, even if non-confirmed email from that >>same host might otherwise be rejected. Our ISP partners feel the same way. >>They want to be able to block spam, yet still deliver confirmed opt-in email >>which they can be sure their users have requested.'" >> >>Snort! "Best practices services" my ass. > >To have any credibility, you can't just "offer a best practice". >You have to guarantee it. And that's exactly where Habeas has >fallen down. > >It's the spammers' turn to point and laugh at a 'tooney now. >And everyone else's turn to flag the Habeas Haiku[tm] as >de facto spamsign. And here's what I got for Topica today: >Thank you for your inquiry. I sent a LART, not an inquiry ... > >***** This is an auto-generated message to your support request >***** > >Due to a recent increase in Customer Support Requests we have >been unable to repsond to your request in a timely manners. > >If you are trying to unsubscribe from a list hosted on our >services, please visit: > >http://www.topica.com/help/unsub.html I can't do that, because I never subscribed ... >If you are still experiencing difficulties, please send a new >request to : > >abuse@topica.com > >and we will respond to your request within 3 to 5 business days. > >Thank you for your patience and understanding. Oh, I understand just fine ... you want me to help you to listwash for your pet spammer. No dice. >Sincerely, > >Topica Customer Support >Topica, Inc. >http://www.topica.com >Please contact us with any further questions or comments. > >Sincerely, > >Finn Gjerdrum >Manager >Customer Support Team >Topica, Inc. Two sincerelies ... does that make it "more sincerely"? Not good enough for me, bub! It's gotta be "Most sincerely" or nothing! -- Patricia ramsa@pemtel.net ramsa@pandora.orbl.org Proud Citizen of the Commonwealth of Virginia "Anti-spammers are the immune system of the Internet." CDR M. Dobson "The issue is consent, not content." Crosscut Help Outlaw spam! === New domain registered by Topica (to avoid blocks?) === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!enews.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu !news.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: jeff@sdsc.edu (Jeff Makey) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: New Topica domain: tclk.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 02:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center, San Diego, California Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: darwin.sdsc.edu X-Trace: news1.ucsd.edu 1050891682 23515 132.249.32.100 (21 Apr 2003 02:21:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news1.ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 02:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1965235 Topica seems to be trying to evade filters by using a new domain: tclk.net . This domain was registered just last Tuesday and is already appearing in their e-mail. :: Jeff Makey jeff@sdsc.edu Department of Tautological Pleonasms and Superfluous Redundancies Department === More info === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.airnews.net !cabal12.airnews.net!rnews From: Richard Johnson Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: New Topica domain: tclk.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:42:27 -0600 Organization: Whirlpools Suck the Breath Out of You Lines: 25 Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rnews@river.com Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Mon Apr 21 01:42:21 2003 NNTP-Posting-Host: !drQE1k-WJ+)AS>FV%u)@;c]O (Encoded at Airnews!) User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) X-Nospam: To reply via email, make sure you don't enter the whirlpool on river left. Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1965329 In article , jeff@sdsc.edu (Jeff Makey) wrote: > Topica seems to be trying to evade filters by using a new domain: > tclk.net . This domain was registered just last Tuesday and is > already appearing in their e-mail. Are they still attacking from their 6 April incept arclightnetworks.net (69.24.236.0/22) and older upn.net (66.180.244.0/22) allocations? Not that they started up with spam from arclightnetworks.net at the same time as they domain-morphed to tpcper.com for their main spamcaster. Have they repeated that pattern, switching networks to dodge firewalls yet again, as well? Richard -- To reply via email, make sure you don't enter the whirlpool on river left. My mailbox. My property. My personal space. My rules. Deal with it. http://www.river.com/users/share/cluetrain/ === Topica ignores "550" bounces, still hammers === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!rip!c03.atl99!news.webusenet.com !pc01.webusenet.com!fe08.atl2.webusenet.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Eca" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: topica Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 12:53:46 EDT Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 12:56:08 -0400 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1978095 So I thought to ask topica why they dont take error 550 for an answer. They hit me more than once a day for the last month, and all of them get 550 (RBL relays.osirusoft.com) returned. I asked them to explain why this was not good enought to stop mailing me. The first responce I got was an auto ack to tell me how to unsubscribe. I responded that was not the question. The second and third were auto ignore messages telling me that I was unsubscribed. So, I mail cogent... asking them to look in to why topica cannot accept 550 as an answer. I actually get a responce... telling me to give them the domain name so they can "investigate" (list wash) I told them I would not let them listwash me, and that I wanted to know why 550 isnt good enough... Lets see where I get Eca === Topica spams through their even new domains === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!cox.net!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com !feed.news.qwest.net!cletus.bright.net!not-for-mail From: "Giblet - MN State Resident" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: [BLOCK] Topicas advizemark* spam domains Lines: 12 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:21:08 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.114.196.90 X-Complaints-To: abuse@hickorytech.net X-Trace: cletus.bright.net 1052141002 216.114.196.90 (Mon, 05 May 2003 09:23:22 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 09:23:22 EDT Organization: HickoryTech Internet Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1976880 Topica is spamming to harvested addresses via their advizemark15.com and advizemark1.com domains. TONS of sightings in NANAS. Interesting point - as much as they try to claim that Topica is 100% opt-in, the truth is that the address they spammed has not been used anywhere publicly for THREE YEARS. Haebeas should never have dropped their lawsuit against these vermin. -- Gib === Spam examples === From: Egils Kaljo Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.sightings Subject: [email] Get the Iraq Most Wanted Deck of Cards! 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Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: NS3.TOPICA.COM Name Server: NS1.TOPICA.COM Name Server: NS2.TOPICA.COM Status: ACTIVE Updated Date: 24-feb-2003 Creation Date: 24-feb-2003 Expiration Date: 24-feb-2004 >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:54:20 EDT <<< <...> [whois.godaddy.com] <...> Registrant: Topica 620 Folsom St #300 San Francisco, California 94107 United States Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ADVIZEMARK1.COM Created on: 24-Feb-03 Expires on: 24-Feb-04 Last Updated on: 24-Feb-03 Administrative Contact: Host, Topica hostmaster@get.topica.com Topica 620 Folsom St #300 San Francisco, California 94107 United States (415) 344-0800 Fax -- (415) 344-0900 Technical Contact: Host, Topica hostmaster@get.topica.com Topica 620 Folsom St #300 San Francisco, California 94107 United States (415) 344-0800 Fax -- (415) 344-0900 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.TOPICA.COM NS2.TOPICA.COM NS3.TOPICA.COM $ whois advizemark15.com [whois.crsnic.net] Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. 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NET-69-24-236-0-TOPICA (NET-69-24-236-0-1) 69.24.236.0 - 69.24.239.255 === More on dialogues with Topica === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: whoknowswhocares99@yahoo.com (simon) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: Entertaining reply from TOPICA.COM Date: 23 May 2003 05:53:08 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 469 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.190.192.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1053694388 15760 127.0.0.1 (23 May 2003 12:53:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 May 2003 12:53:08 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1992880 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:280501 No response from them yet. Pity :( Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:22:58 -0700 Subject: TOPICA fights back ! (well sort of) Topica's one and only reply enclosed at bottom. To: dgrabowski REMOVETHISAT verio.net,"Bill McCaulley" , usenet@drenalin.com, Finn@get.topica.com, abuse@get.topica.com, customersupport@ibmdw.emailpublisher.com,info@get.topica.com,Anna@get.topica.com postmaster@the-dma.org, webmaster@the-dma.org, pr@the-dma.org, lrc@the-dma.org, consumeraffairs@the-dma.org, govaffairs@the-dma.org, councils@the-dma.org, pdt@the-dma.org, conference@the-dma.org, president@the-dma.org, Bill McCaulley, (and other Topica friends) You have NOT addressed my complaints. You have NOT explained why there are so many 'dissatisfied' Topica email recipients referenced in my previous email (repeated below for your benefit) Why not I wonder ? Failure to address my concerns this time will speak for itself. Why am I blessed with a response from yourself now, when previous complaints have been totally ignored? Mmm... I think we both know. 1. If as you claim - your spam is "permission based" why do I receive all this Topica spam when I did NOT sign up for ANY of it ? Please provide me with YOUR definition of OPT-IN. Here's mine - do you like it? Make sure that all email addresses are confirmed with an opt-in process that ensures the recipient wants to receive your list. Obtaining permission from a third party to send an email does not ensure the email is solicited. The best way to confirm email addresses before adding them to a mailing list is by using Closed loop confirmation (sometimes referred to as "full confirmation", "full verification", "confirmed voluntary subscription", or "double opt-in"). In this process, after you receive a subscription request, you send a confirmation email to that address which requires some affirmative action before that email address is added to the mailing list. Since only the true owner of that email address can respond, you will know that the true owner has truly intended to subscribe and that the address is valid. See how easy it is Bill? 2. You are listed on *more* than just SPEWS - as previously referenced - and your comments regarding your SPEWS listing are laughable and will be treated as such when this 'response'is posted on NANAE. I can assure you your 'response' to my complaints will generate much mirth and derision... 3.PLEASE ADDRESS THIS : listed in OSIRUS(127.0.0.4) DORKZTL(127.0.0.4) SPAMCOP(127.0.0.2) SPEWS(127.0.0.4) 4.PLEASE ADDRESS THIS : http://click.sfm.email-publisher.com/maaaAg5aaTZFF0000000/ http://www.softwaresavingsplus.com/nortonsw2003/index.cfm?action=viewproduct&product_id=94&1=1Save 90%! Norton SystemWorks 2002 Fall Sale Now! From: Let Us Help Subject: Are You Protected? Get Norton 2002, just $29.99 FROM SYMANTEC INTERVIEW: "How do legitimate products end up getting sold in such dubious ways? "It's not coming from Symantec," says Joy Cartun, the company's director of legal affairs. "We don't have those sorts of campaigns." William Plante, Symantec's director of worldwide security, puts it even more bluntly: "Ninety-nine percent of the time, this stuff is counterfeit." Symantec regularly checks out the product being sold on the Web, and Plante says he knows of only one case where deeply discounted software was not counterfeit." 5."We aren't perfect." (that's ok what spammer is ?) 6.SPEWS lists spammers and spamhausens. END OF STORY. Until spammers get proper jobs,SPEWS and others will continue. SPEWS doesn't block anyone. Spammers and Spam friendly ISP's don't like SPEWS because it *works*. Don't like SPEWS ? Stop Spamming - easy! How else can I help you ? (The Republican Party listed eh ? Well that's justice I must say - I hope the Neo-Cons get listed too.) 7."Irkutsk so as to avoid accountability" I don't think you are in *any* position to talk about accountability. And I have heard that Irkutsk is a very nice place :) 8."testing white-listing approaches " Eh ? Spammers don't get white-listed , Spammers get BLACK listed, Bill. 9.Does Topica have any relationship with jokemonster.com please? 10.WHY have multiple reports been ignored? (until now :) 11. PLEASE ADDRESS THIS: "Topica have been blocked for supporting denial of service attacks from their service due to incorrectly configured servers on their side." 12. Does Topica use harvested email lists ? 13. Does Topica allow its customers to use harvested email lists ? 14.Does Topica or it's customers use address-verifying images in it's emails so the sender can learn whether the e-mail address is valid/live ? 15.Topica suggests "new industry approaches" ? Let me help you : USE CLOSED LOOP OPT-IN. Perhaps Topica would like to hire me as a consultant as I make things so simple? 16."TrustE to create the "Trusted Sender" program" Please do a search on that one at NANA Billy. All is not what it seems ... "Trusted Sender" + Spammer Equals Oxymoron. 17."We recently participated with the FTC and gave testimony on the topic of SPAM" Gee do you get spam from Topica.com too ? So you spam yourself then ? Mmm... that's a worry. (at your next meeting with the FTC perhaps you can give some testimony on your spamming predilection) 18.If you don't like blacklists then don't Spam, Billy. Hey no more advice til I get my consulting retainer! At the FTC did you also give testimony on the accountability of Topica ? Oh well not much to say there I guess. 19."Topica has a Privacy and Standards Department that monitors abuse complaints daily. We have a full time staff of three people that are devoted to controlling complaints and monitoring customers who cannot meet our standards" Well you certainly did a real good job "controlling" my complaints. ROTFLMAO !! SpammerSpeak - 'controlling' = IGNORING. SpammerSpeak - 'monitoring' = MORE IGNORING. 20. "Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards" The best oxymoron so far. Got any more? 21."We try to maintain our customers at an abuse standard of 2.5 complaints per million emails sent. The majority of our customers maintain this standard. Those that do not are not allowed to mail with Topica." Yeah and I have a couple of fairies living in my back garden. I got pics - you wanna see them? Bill,Bill,Billyboy - how come that customer of yours is STILL spamming me then ??? Your responses are going to cause uncontrollable hysterics when this is posted. 22."You may want to reopen your servers to evaluate our new policies [of spamming] as many members of the Internet community have [declined]." Sorry Bill,but you do leave youself open to it mate! I suggest you study CREDIBILITY 101 pronto! (study hard now - it will pay off eventually) 23."Simon, we are frustrated with SPAM also" It's a bloody pain isn't it ? What do you reckon we should do with 'em Bill ? Post them at NANAS so all appropriate parties can block them? Hey I suggest using Spamcop as well - and while you're at it put yours through too :) 24. Hey Bill what do you think of this then? "A US Federal judge has characterized spamming as "theft by conversion and trespass to chattel" 25."I hope the information I am responding to you with will help you to better understand the true situation at Topica and appreciate its efforts to help stop the problem." Yep I get the picture buddy,crystal clear and thanks for your kind words but PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO ALL THE POINTS I HAVE RAISED IN *BOTH* EMAILS. Remember my Toppy friends: "It's about consent, not content." And Bill, when will Topica cease spamming? Go on tell me,pretty please! Regards, Simon. Sr.Director of SpamButchery Inc. ***************************************** Bill McCaulley wrote: > Simon, > > I am the Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards at > Topica and wanted to > respond to your message on behalf of ourselves and > our customers. > > As you may know, being listed on SPEWS is not a sign > that we don't fight > Spam. And it's not a sign that we are negligent. > SPEWS is a self-avowed > vigilante organization that operates on a > "one-strike" principle. It is > based in Irkutsk so as to avoid accountability. > > Topica works very hard to make sure all customers > are permission-based. > We are the only large ESP that has got an IP devoted > to traffic that > uses double opt-in confirmation. We've been a leader > in testing > white-listing approaches and in suggesting new > industry approaches. We > aren't perfect. (As one of the largest players in a > shifting landscape > it's impossible to be perfect.) But we do have high > standards. > > Our listing with SPEWS is not exclusive. SPEWS lists > practically all of > the email service vendors, and all of the largest > ones. However, SPEWS > also lists small players and individual > entities--The Republican Party, > United Airlines. It is some comfort to know that > SPEWS does not penalize > just the services that are very popular. Aside from > all email providers, > they > have also listed SBC and ATT. > > Topica has taken several steps to try to help our > whole industry deal > with the problems of SPAM. This year, for instance, > we endorsed efforts by > TrustE to create the "Trusted Sender" program; we > brought out double opt-in > tools for the users of our paid service; and we > joined the Internet > Alliance. > We recently participated with the FTC and gave > testimony on the topic of > SPAM and also on the problem of blacklists making > decisions without > accountability or room for redress. > > Topica has a Privacy and Standards Department that > monitors abuse > complaints daily. We have a full time staff of three > people that are devoted > to > controlling complaints and monitoring customers who > cannot meet our > standards. We try to maintain our customers at an > abuse standard of 2.5 > complaints per million emails sent. The majority of > our customers > maintain this standard. Those that do not are not > allowed to mail with > Topica. > > We continue to improve all our practices, including > bounce policies. You > may want to reopen your servers to evaluate our new > polices, as many > members of the Internet community have. > > Simon, we are frustrated with SPAM also. I > appreciate your comments and > suggestions. I hope the information I am responding > to you with will > help you to better understand the true situation at > Topica and appreciate > its > efforts to help stop the problem. > > > Regards, > > Bill McCaulley > Sr. Director of Privacy and Standards > billm@get.topica.com [mailto:billm@get.topica.com] > > Regards, > > 415.344.3809 > > **************************************************** HELLO MY TOPICA FRIENDS, Ariel Poler: founder of Topica Anna Zornosa, CEO of Topica Finn Gjerdrum Manager Customer Support Team -- Topica, Inc. I suggest u guys get your act together - otherwise u will find yourselves blocked from the entire internet. READ THIS: Spam is unsolicited bulk email. There is only one kind. "Promotions from merchants or other organizations" are not legitimate if they are unsolicited. To quote a well known anti-spam catch-phrase, "It's about consent, not content." GET IT ? AND THIS : The cost of delivering spam is borne by the *recipients*. A US Federal judge has characterized spamming as "theft by conversion and trespass to chattel" (Compuserve vs. Cyberpromotions, US District Court in Ohio, 1996). RE-EDUCATE YOURSELVES (if that's possible) HERE : http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/227.html I DIDN'T KNOW TOPICA WAS *SO* POPULAR! (Mmm... LOTS of interesting stuff below - now read carefully and u will see how *popular* TOPICA is.) PCWORLD: YOU ARE RATHER POPULAR IN NANA TOO - COOL! REALMARKET.COM : YOU GET A FEW MENTIONS ALSO ( i'll help u out a bit if u want :) AND *NOW* I KNOW WHERE ALL THAT REALMARKET.COM AND PCWORLD.COM *TRASH* CAME FROM. IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW... SUGGEST ALL YOU SPAMSTERS HAVE A GOOD READ AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES. (God knows u need it.) ENCLOSED INFO IS *ONLY* A FRACTION OF WHAT I FOUND... UMM... WHY DON'T U ALL GET A REAL JOB ? listed in OSIRUS(127.0.0.4) DORKZTL(127.0.0.4) SPAMCOP(127.0.0.2) SPEWS(127.0.0.4) I HAVE INFORMED SYMANTEC ABOUT THIS - THEY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH TOPICA SHORTLY... http://click.sfm.email-publisher.com/maaaAg5aaTZFF0000000/ http://www.softwaresavingsplus.com/nortonsw2003/index.cfm?action=viewproduct&product_id=94&1=1Save 90%! Norton SystemWorks 2002 Fall Sale Now! From: Let Us Help Subject: Are You Protected? Get Norton 2002, just $29.99 Here is who to contact at Topica: Otto Imken Director of ISP Relatons isp-abuse@get.topica.com -------- PLUS see above. Topica, Inc. 620 Folsom St. San Francisco CA, 94107 Phone: 415.344.0800 Fax: 415.344.0900 ********************* too boring so snipped ************************* === Topica *still* spams === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu !nntp.service.ohio-state.edu!not-for-mail From: "Jay Stuler" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: Re: Entertaining reply from TOPICA.COM Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:19:50 -0400 Organization: Ohio State University Lines: 14 Sender: stuler.1@dhcp065-024-140-061.columbus.rr.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp065-024-140-061.columbus.rr.com X-Trace: charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu 1053699303 19037 65.24.140.61 (23 May 2003 14:15:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@osu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 23 May 2003 14:15:03 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:1992944 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:280502 "simon" wrote in message news:f1f16b81.0305230453.7b0cb87f@posting.google.com... *snip* > > 1. If as you claim - your spam is "permission based" > why do I receive all this Topica spam when I did NOT > sign up for ANY of it ? I was spammed by Topica yesterday, along with the entire database of the University. Topica is nothing but a spammer tool. === Topica does NOT read their abuse@ box, it is handled by the bot === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu !postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: chaisty@attglobal.net (Christopher H.) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica: Meet Kerry, the faulty abuse-bot Date: 8 Jun 2003 21:46:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 77 Message-ID: <95e267e.0306082046.3e16f22f@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.162.226.133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1055134007 19544 127.0.0.1 (9 Jun 2003 04:46:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jun 2003 04:46:47 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2003757 Apparently Topica's time-delay auto-ack for their faulty abuse-bot is named "Kerry". It's clear no human actually read the mailing in the seven days it took to get this response. For the record, Topica's official domain-washing policy, provided as a delightful constrast with reality: "If you're looking to unsubscribe multiple individuals or a domain from the Topica services, please have the authorized representative of your company contact us at: abuse@get.topica.com." Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 To: Domain Administrator .com> Subject: Re: Unsolicited commercial e-mail from your domains () Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team Hi Domain, We apologize for the unwanted email that you are receiving. Unfortunately, we have no exact match for the email address you provided. You are most likely receiving the unwanted list emails through an alias or forwarding address. Do you have any other email addresses or aliases that may be receiving these emails? It is also possible that you received mail from a list which we have since deleted, or that you have already successfully unsubscribed from yourself. Please forward the next, complete, unwanted list email you receive (not this message) to: mailto:unsubscribe@topica.com We will do everything possible to resolve this situation for you as quickly as possible. Regards, Kerry Topica Self Service Support http://www.email-publisher.com Original Message Follows: ------------------------- Dear Topica/YFDirect, You have continued to send unsolicited commercial e-mail to this domain after being repeatedly warned about your behavior and its unwelcome effects. YOU ARE HEREBY ORDERED TO CEASE AND DESIST ALL ELECTRONIC MAILINGS TO .com domain and ALL mail addresses for this domain, with the sole exception being responses to this thread and to this address. This applies to all domains owned by you, your subsidiaries, your sister, or parent companies, as well as any servers under your control or run on your network. Since you apparently can not conduct your business in compliance with the laws of your state and the laws of my state (North Carolina), you are simply not welcome at this domain anymore. There will be no grace period (except as required by any applicable law), and I will send you no more e-mail warnings. Christopher H. Domain owner and administrator, .com admin@.com === And yet another new domain, registered by Topica for their spams === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu !postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: chaisty@attglobal.net (Christopher H.) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: New Topica domain, neonet2.com Date: 18 Jun 2003 21:34:41 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 79 Message-ID: <95e267e.0306182034.1283f58f@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.162.226.133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1055997281 9038 127.0.0.1 (19 Jun 2003 04:34:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Jun 2003 04:34:41 GMT Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2009800 Topica is now using the recently registered neonet2.com domain for reply/drop boxes for spam. Hosted, of course, via the Arclight Networks front/cohort, and therefore already in most IP blocklists. Noted as a courtesy for those who have to rely on filters. Full posting in NANAS. Registrant: YF Direct, Inc. (YSJVKAVMKD) PO Box 390520 Mountain View, CA 94039-0520 US Domain Name: NEONET2.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: INC, YFDirect (33817655I) domains@yfdirect.com PO Box 390520 Mountain View, CA 94039-0520 US 650-940-1104 fax: 123 123 1234 Record expires on 13-Jun-2004. Record created on 13-Jun-2003. Database last updated on 19-Jun-2003 00:19:16 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.TOPICA.COM 69.24.236.8 NS2.TOPICA.COM 65.86.249.69 NS3.TOPICA.COM 69.24.227.3 Reverse Lookup Results Host Type Value 193.236.24.69.in-addr.arpa PTR adpro.tfmb.net 236.24.69.in-addr.arpa NS ns3.topica.com 236.24.69.in-addr.arpa NS ns1.upn.net 236.24.69.in-addr.arpa NS ns1.topica.com 236.24.69.in-addr.arpa NS ns2.upn.net 236.24.69.in-addr.arpa NS ns2.topica.com ns3.topica.com A 69.24.227.3 ns1.upn.net A 66.180.227.22 ns1.topica.com A 69.24.236.8 ns2.upn.net A 66.180.227.23 ns2.topica.com A 65.86.249.69 IP Address Contact Information Arclight Networks ARCLIGHT-ARIN-BLOCK-1 (NET-69-24-224-0-1) 69.24.224.0 - 69.24.239.255 Topica, Inc. NET-69-24-236-0-TOPICA (NET-69-24-236-0-1) 69.24.236.0 - 69.24.239.255 Munged mail header: Received: from .mgw.rr.com ([xx.xx.xx.xxx]) by ..rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:40:46 -0400 Received: from mail4.atl.registeredsite.com (mail4.atl.registeredsite.com [64.224.219.78]) by .mgw.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5HJiL75010072 for <@.rr.com>; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail. (mail. [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) by mail4.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5HJi0h3019285 for <@.rr.com>; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:__:__ -0400 Received: from out027.tpcper.com [xx.xxx.xxx.xxx] by mail. (SMTPD32-6.06) id ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 15:__:__ -0400 To: @ From: Important Info Subject: Your Credit Report Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:__:__ -0700 Message-ID: <@b.yfoffers.com> Errors-To: @b.yfoffers.com> Reply-To: @b.yfoffers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-Path: perf-news-errors.@b.yfoffers.com === New IP range: at Cogent === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.eunet.no!uninett.no!news.algonet.se !algonet!newsfeed1!bredband!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!news1.songnet.fi !not-for-mail From: Safari Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: [BLOCK] cogentopica :) 38.113.200.0/22 AS16755 Date: 30 Jul 2003 23:22:55 GMT Organization: Song Networks Internet Services Lines: 175 Message-ID: Reply-To: safari@linuxmail.orgies NNTP-Posting-Host: 1a12.yhteys.mtv3.fi X-Trace: news1.songnet.fi 1059607375 13355 62.237.18.26 (30 Jul 2003 23:22:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@songnet.fi NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jul 2003 23:22:55 GMT Cancel-Lock: sha1:p3HE4pW9TjMGIgQvNi/5knyHoQ0= User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4pl2 (Linux) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2037089 FYI... they might not be spamming yet from _this_ netblock, but maybe later? 38.113.200.0=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.1=gw.topica.com 38.113.200.2=bigip.topica.com 38.113.200.3=passat.topica.com 38.113.200.4=cabrio.topica.com 38.113.200.5=from.topica.com 38.113.200.6=bulwark.topica.com 38.113.200.7=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.8=ns1.topica.com 38.113.200.9=ns1-sfo3.topica.com 38.113.200.10=ns2-sfo3.topica.com 38.113.200.11=ns3-sfo3.topica.com 38.113.200.12=ns4-sfo3.topica.com 38.113.200.13=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.14=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.15=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.16=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.17=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.18=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.19=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.20=undefined-yet.tpctex.com 38.113.200.21=out001.tpctex.com 38.113.200.22=out002.tpctex.com 38.113.200.23=out003.tpctex.com ... $ jwhois 38.113.200.0 [Cached] [rwhois.cogentco.com] %rwhois V-1.5:0010b0:00 rwhois.cogentco.com network:ID:NET-2671C80016 network:Network-Name:NET-2671C80016 network:IP-Network:38.113.200.0/22 network:Org-Name:Topica network:Street-Address:620 Folsom Ave Suite 300 network:City:San Francisco network:State:CA network:Postal-Code:94107 network:Country-Code:US network:Tech-Contact:ZC108-ARIN network:Updated:2003-07-21 17:10:28 network:Updated-By:ddiller %ok route-server.as5388.net>sh ip bgp 38.113.200.0 BGP routing table entry for 38.113.200.0/22, version 39627401 Paths: (2 available, best #2) Not advertised to any peer 3356 174 16631 16755 195.92.201.154 from 195.92.201.8 (195.92.201.8) Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, internal Community: 5388:100 5388:9044 5388:9103 5388:9244 5388:9666 Originator: 195.92.201.154, Cluster list: 0.0.21.12 3356 174 16631 16755 195.92.201.153 from 195.92.200.201 (195.92.200.201) Origin IGP, metric 100, localpref 100, valid, internal, best Community: 5388:100 5388:9044 5388:9103 5388:9244 5388:9666 Originator: 195.92.201.153, Cluster list: 0.0.21.12 route-server.as5388.net>quit Router: sw-gw.nordu.net Command: trace 38.113.200.11 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ns3-sfo3.topica.com (38.113.200.11) ... 4 so-4-1-0.mp2.Stockholm1.Level3.net (213.242.68.205) [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 5 so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net (212.187.128.49) [AS 3356] 36 msec 36 msec 36 msec 6 so-1-0-0.bbr1.Washington1.level3.net (212.187.128.138) [AS 3356] 108 msec 108 msec 112 msec 7 so-6-0-0.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net (209.244.11.10) [AS 3356] 108 msec 108 msec 108 msec 8 cogent-level3-oc12.Washington1.Level3.net (209.0.227.106) [AS 3356] 192 msec 196 msec 196 msec 9 p1-0.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.197) [AS 174] 196 msec 384 msec 288 msec 10 p10-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.209) [AS 16631] 212 msec 204 msec 204 msec 11 p15-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.69) [AS 16631] 220 msec 200 msec 208 msec 12 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) [AS 16631] 204 msec 200 msec 204 msec 13 g50.ba01.b006600-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.13.146) [AS 16631] 208 msec 312 msec 220 msec 14 Topica.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.6.110) [AS 16631] 236 msec * 236 msec $ traceroute -I 38.113.200.11 traceroute to 38.113.200.11 (38.113.200.11), 40 hops max, 38 byte packets ... 4 psl-p1.hel.fi.sn.net (62.236.1.85) 104.414 ms 105.646 ms 105.046 ms 5 pos3-0.aix-peer1.ams.nl.sn.net (62.95.54.238) 134.181 ms 131.470 ms 131.373 ms 6 core01.ams01.atlas.cogentco.com (193.148.15.234) 130.710 ms 134.538 ms 136.254 ms 7 p1-0.core01.ams02.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.5) 134.376 ms 131.880 ms 131.287 ms 8 p1-0.core01.lcy01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.1) 134.746 ms 138.119 ms 132.880 ms 9 p13-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.18) 206.027 ms 204.205 ms 208.139 ms 10 p14-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.86) 231.862 ms 233.958 ms 228.588 ms 11 p15-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.61) 233.835 ms 367.256 ms 236.184 ms 12 p5-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.185) 279.655 ms 276.180 ms 275.073 ms 13 p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.94) 279.577 ms 277.410 ms 275.899 ms 14 g49.ba01.b006600-1.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.65.198) 277.359 ms 277.262 ms 279.547 ms 15 ns3-sfo3.topica.com (38.113.200.11) 279.897 ms 277.146 ms 277.931 ms $ jwhois AS16755 -h whois.arin.net [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] OrgName: Topica, Inc. OrgID: TOPICA Address: 620 Folsom Street Address: Suite 300 City: San Francisco StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94107 Country: US ASNumber: 16755 ASName: TOPICA ASHandle: AS16755 Comment: RegDate: 2000-06-05 Updated: 2000-06-05 TechHandle: SN211-ARIN TechName: Nelson, Scott TechPhone: +1-415-344-3823 TechEmail: drenalin@get.topica.com OrgAbuseHandle: TIR-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Topica ISP Relations OrgAbusePhone: +1-415-344-0800 OrgAbuseEmail: isp-abuse@get.topica.com OrgTechHandle: TOG-ARIN OrgTechName: Topica Operations Group OrgTechPhone: +1-415-344-0800 OrgTechEmail: hostmaster@get.topica.com # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-07-29 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. -- Safari - y7pt9001@sneakemail.com.gov.invalid "Talk is cheap. Show me the code." - Linus Torvalds === More "remove us from your blocklist" requests to other ISPs === From: "easynet.nl abuse handling dept." Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: [blackholes.easynet.nl] Topica 38.113.200.0/24 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:09:15 +0200 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Lines: 36 Message-ID: Reply-To: "easynet.nl abuse handling dept." NNTP-Posting-Host: groaarrr.bengrimm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: thor.wirehub.nl 1066784948 30731 195.86.114.90 (22 Oct 2003 01:09:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wirehub.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Oct 2003 01:09:08 GMT ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Topica Support Team To: abuse@abuse.nl.easynet.net Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:10:57 -0700 Subject: [EA ticket 10220209] Requesting removal for part of Topica's IP ranges (KMM13279584V80751L0KM) You currently have a permblock against Topica's IP ranges. I am writing to request that you remove the block on the part of our IP range reserved for subscriber-confirmed mailing lists and the subscriber confirmations our system sends after the initial opt-in. Here is the range we use for this traffic: 38.113.200.* Our terms of service require that our customers mail only to addresses that have opted in, and a subscription on this IP range cannot go live without the subscriber confirming in response to the message our system sends. You will find no open relays and this range is for confirmed mailing lists. Additionally, we have been maintaining low complaint levels in Ironport's Bonded Sender program. Please let us know if we can get this range opened up. Our IP other ranges for customer mail are 38.113.201.* - 38.113.203.* (for which our terms of service still require opt-in but not additional confirmation by the subscriber), plus we use a separate range for our corporate network that our staff mail through. Topica discontinued our IP connectivity through our previous upstream connectivity provider, Arclight, as of Sept. 22, and stopped using 69.24.236.* - 69.24.239.* at that time, in case you want to annotate those listings. Please let us know whether this 38.113.200.* IP range can get unblocked and if you have any questions. Thanks. --Topica ISP Relations === And Topica STILL spams and listwashes === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com !cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com !border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com !nntp.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 23:24:13 -0600 From: "Steve" Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: More Topica Cluelessness Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:24:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Lines: 75 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.84.13.203 X-Trace: sv3-nQTL7qTQ7x7hXAiNH71X/GpvmJdL2kzBLOH48QAkhBYtkj8cRZDR8vNVTpyhLixlA7+rxBFYOP Raj0V!vC+sgc5czX+ZMNpMTbk8L6480sKAoN+BaQH/Ooo4ihF1CiPTJT/Di6hmxEv4 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2142623 I sent Topica a block notice from a hotmail address only used for LARTs and block notices. Despite not telling them which addresses were spammed I was listwashed and was asked to contact them again if there were more issues. No wonder they are blacklisted by most of the net. ========================================== -Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jG2bJw5cH6VB/OsgGPCyO/v Received: from smtp.topica.com ([206.111.131.78]) by mc1-f18.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:59:21 -0800 Received: from scorp006.topica.com (scorp006.topica.com [192.168.129.120]) by smtp.topica.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07217 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:59:22 -0800 Message-Id: <200401011859.KAA07217@smtp.topica.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 11:01:39 -0800 To: MUNGED Subject: Re: Abuse From: yourgoodybox.com (KMM14522071V83651L0KM) From: Topica Abuse Team Reply-To: Topica Abuse Team MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Kana 6.0 Return-Path: abuse@topica.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2004 18:59:21.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DD1F380:01C3D099] Thank you for your inquiry. We apologize for the inconvenience of receiving unwanted email. The email address you provided has been unsubscribed. Please allow up to 48 hours for all queued mail to be processed. We realize that unwanted email is irritating, which is why we are fervently committed to responding as quickly as possible to unsubscription requests. If you receive unwanted email that comes from a list on our website, please contact us immediately at: abuse@topica.com We will unsubscribe you, and take appropriate action against the list owner, since the generating of unwanted email is a definite violation of our Terms of Service. Please contact us with any further questions or comments. Sincerely, Finn Gjerdrum Manager Customer Support Team Topica, Inc. http://www.topica.com Original Message Follows: ------------------------- An account that has never been used to signup for anything was spammed by these bozos. Once I munge things, it will be posted to NANAS. I checked the domaine name at openrbl.org. It and many of your netblocks are already blocked my most of the major list. You are now in ours as well. Have a nice day === And more Topica spam, they've got a new IP range again === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!p01!fed1read05.POSTED !not-for-mail From: JJB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040123 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Topica on WIltel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:16:19 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.105.247.140 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: fed1read05 1077354979 68.105.247.140 (Sat, 21 Feb 2004 04:16:19 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 04:16:19 EST Organization: Cox Communications Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2169834 Just got spammed by Topica from a Wiltel allocation. Update your filters. 65.77.104.0/22 $ whois 65.77.104.30 [Querying whois.arin.net] [whois.arin.net] Williams Communications, Incorporated WCG-BLK-3 (NET-65-77-0-0-1) 65.77.0.0 - 65.77.255.255 Topica, Inc. WLCO-TWC1458274-TOPICA-NET (NET-65-77-104-0-1) 65.77.104.0 - 65.77.107.255 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-02-20 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. === Topica encodes spammed e-mail addresses to be able to listwash === Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!gail.ripco.com!wasp.rahul.net!blue.rahul.net !not-for-mail From: axlq@spamcop.net (axlq) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Nose calibration: what do you think of this? Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: a2i network Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <7fuJc.19811549$Of.3291783@news.easynews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.rahul.net X-Trace: blue.rahul.net 1089910751 9522 192.160.13.70 (15 Jul 2004 16:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: support@rahul.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2223274 In article , Satch wrote: >The customized mail for which I receive complaints, though, is *very* >interesting, and I enjoy spending a little time trying to see if there is >a secret message hidden somewhere in the headers. Topica does that. I sent an anonymous spamcop complaint to them. They wrote back asking for the email address to remove from their list. I responded through spamcop's anonymous reply feature that I would not reveal the address because it was a spamtrap. They then wrote back saying that xxx@spamcop.net had been removed from their list. The only way they could have figured it out is from stuff they coded into the headers, that spamcop didn't remove. -A